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CCP, Training and Unfair - complaint about CCP

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2013-07-25 14:16:02 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:



Bloody Slave wrote:


Sorry, could not police myself against the trolling wagon you will see here. Complaining in GD is like sitting in a pool of piranhas with your balls bleeding.Bear

Now *there* is a mental image that won't be leaving my mind any time soon... Shocked


Pfft. Didn't want those balls anyway.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Nightshade Mary
Darkwater Innovations
#62 - 2013-07-25 14:37:00 UTC
Hmm lemme see.

Dead horse... check

Whip... check




Let the flogging begin.
CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Deepwater Hooligans
#63 - 2013-07-25 14:37:47 UTC  |  Edited by: CompleteFailure
Shadowyfreak wrote:

The crux of the matter is this - I am not asking for anything extra ordinary, or demanding extra special circumstances,


Yes, you are.

Shadowyfreak wrote:

I am asking for CCP to fill the agreement that was in place - and the agreement was "destroyer and battlecruiser skills for x days"


I'd like to see this agreement...

Also, the point you're missing here is that, while you had Destroyers 4 and Battlecruisers 4 previously, you did not have the corresponding racial cruiser skills that would allow you to fly all racial BC's. You didn't lose anything in the deal, you are still able to fly the ships you were able to fly before the changes, and still unable to fly the ships you weren't able to. There's nothing to reimburse here, you're asking them to give you things for free which you didn't have before.

As has been stated, the changes were announced well in advance, about a year in advance IIRC, and at any time while logging in you could have clicked on one of the MANY MANY news links on the right to see what the deal was. You can't honestly expect to be compensated for your own ignorance and lack of initiative?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#64 - 2013-07-25 14:43:10 UTC
CompleteFailure wrote:
Shadowyfreak wrote:
I am asking for CCP to fill the agreement that was in place - and the agreement was "destroyer and battlecruiser skills for x days"

I'd like to see this agreement...

…especially since the actual and explicit agreement was “if you could fly it before, you can fly it after”. Blink
CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Deepwater Hooligans
#65 - 2013-07-25 14:47:09 UTC
Tippia wrote:
CompleteFailure wrote:
Shadowyfreak wrote:
I am asking for CCP to fill the agreement that was in place - and the agreement was "destroyer and battlecruiser skills for x days"

I'd like to see this agreement...

…especially since the actual and explicit agreement was “if you could fly it before, you can fly it after”. Blink


Beat me to it, just edited my previous post Smile
Zane Lowe
Our Sanctum
Pandemic Horde
#66 - 2013-07-25 15:02:00 UTC
I like the part where he thinks spending $500 a year makes him rich.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#67 - 2013-07-25 15:29:55 UTC
Shadowyfreak wrote:
To whom it may concern,

I have a serious concern, which I hope to be rectified by CCP.

As a paying customer I feel that I have been cheated.

I do not have a fleet to siege Jita to get this changed so I am hoping that it can be dealt with in a mature manner, and rectified by CCP in order to maintain customer good will.

The skills:

Destroyers
BattleCruisers (and others that I cannot think of)

have all been converted into faction equivalents of the same name - adding massive amounts of time to a training ques, and of course more money.

Now I had those skills to level 4 - with only a short time to train them up.

I am happy to train one of those skills to level 5 - but I am very unhappy that 40+ days (rough calculation) has been added to my training que.

I have paid my money every month without issue, not in game currency

Yes I have lodged a ticket to get reimbursement but that was denied - with the excuse that it was announced in a blog somewhere months ago.


I do not have the time to read every blog on eve, to find out every miniscule detail.

What I would like to request from CCP is the following: May I please have the equivalent inject able skill points to allow me to fill the 3 of the 4 skills for both Destroyers and Battlecruisers
as I said - im happy to train one of the skills but the 4 is just wrong.


Regards
SF
WolfPack.





I'm all for CCP being more player friendly, but as has been pointed out, this change was actually well advertised by CCP.
You had an opportunity to get all the racial variants to five, just as we all did, and you instead chose instead to train advanced brain frying to 5. Oops

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#68 - 2013-07-25 16:07:16 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:



Bloody Slave wrote:


Sorry, could not police myself against the trolling wagon you will see here. Complaining in GD is like sitting in a pool of piranhas with your balls bleeding.Bear

Now *there* is a mental image that won't be leaving my mind any time soon... Shocked


Pfft. Didn't want those balls anyway.

Made me laugh out loud.
Plus wan!
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-07-25 16:07:44 UTC
All the responses of you should have checked the blogs are BS answers. Even if you checked the blogs and posted about how this is unfair CCP wont do anything about it. Additional training time equals revenue for them and they wont change that. OP has a point, What if CCP increased all training time across the board for all skills what could you do about that?

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Rumtin
Imperium Technologies
Sigma Grindset
#70 - 2013-07-25 16:11:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Rumtin
Nightshade Mary wrote:
Hmm lemme see.

Dead horse... check

Whip... check




Let the flogging begin.



ROFL +1

You ma'am, deserve a "like". ^_^
Mazlow Shartain
Thin Red Line Industries
#71 - 2013-07-25 16:11:56 UTC
Djana Libra wrote:
0/10 ....

This one's even worse than that "militairy" guy complaining he had to defend his country for a year and wanted his SP reimbursed.


Please linky. I've been away. Fighting for my country.
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#72 - 2013-07-25 16:14:24 UTC
Based on post to response ratio, I'd call this troll successful.

...
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#73 - 2013-07-25 16:20:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
RomeStar wrote:
All the responses of you should have checked the blogs are BS answers. Even if you checked the blogs and posted about how this is unfair CCP wont do anything about it. Additional training time equals revenue for them and they wont change that. OP has a point, What if CCP increased all training time across the board for all skills what could you do about that?

Exactly how is objective truth a 'BS answer?'

The OP's 'point' and complaint has been addressed and answered, ad nauseum, in more threads than I care to think about, more official responses than were strictly reasonable, in blogs, and in all maner of ways.

It is simple:

The move was telegraphed, trumpetted, and broadcast in exquisit and crystal-clear detail. More than a year in advance.
The OP failed to take action.

Story over.

NOW, more than six weeks later, he wants compensation for a victimiaztion that never happened? For decisions he alone undertook, for actions he alone failed to take?! THAT is the real Bull Faeces.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2013-07-25 16:23:33 UTC
OH GOD EVERYONE, THE LEARNING SKILLS HAVE VANISHED!

Dodixie > Hek
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#75 - 2013-07-25 16:25:07 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
OH GOD EVERYONE, THE LEARNING SKILLS HAVE VANISHED!

Lol
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#76 - 2013-07-25 16:26:34 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
OH GOD EVERYONE, THE LEARNING SKILLS HAVE VANISHED!


I noticed, and my freaking Typhoon with nanos can't do 10,000 meters per second, and my Thorax can only use 5 drones. And why don't these mines I want to place at a gate work anymore?

Someone changed the damn game overnight again! Damn it. I demand SPs (Skillpoints) and and HJs (hand jobs) from CCP!
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2013-07-25 16:33:06 UTC
Dear CCP,

I **** my pants. Please change my diaper.

Sincerely,
OP
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#78 - 2013-07-25 16:45:52 UTC
Nightshade Mary wrote:
Hmm lemme see.

Dead horse... check

Whip... check




Let the flogging begin.

Whips won't do. Everyone, grab a plank and get your backs into it! We're going to make this carcass move!

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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First Star Wolf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2013-07-25 16:54:11 UTC
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#80 - 2013-07-25 16:54:46 UTC
RomeStar wrote:
All the responses of you should have checked the blogs are BS answers. Even if you checked the blogs and posted about how this is unfair CCP wont do anything about it. Additional training time equals revenue for them and they wont change that. OP has a point, What if CCP increased all training time across the board for all skills what could you do about that?

You do realize that overall training time was radically reduced in that patch right? Far more was made easier and quicker to get than was made longer.

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