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Blue on blue attacks - Diana Kim, Pyre Falcon, The Republic, The Federation

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Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#241 - 2013-08-12 17:43:48 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Don't ever use the word "wriggling" to describe the concept of what may lie under an old Amarrian's robes again.


Thank you.


How about 'pulsing'? Or 'quivering'?
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#242 - 2013-08-12 17:45:05 UTC
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Don't ever use the word "wriggling" to describe the concept of what may lie under an old Amarrian's robes again.


Thank you.


How about 'pulsing'? Or 'quivering'?


Or 'throbbing'? What about 'moist'?

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#243 - 2013-08-12 17:52:37 UTC
Disgusting filthy gallenteans!!

This is why the Federation must be destroyed!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#244 - 2013-08-12 17:57:22 UTC
Drink!


And not just because Kim seems to now confuse Khanid with Gallentians, but to forget the mental imagery I'm now stuck with.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#245 - 2013-08-12 17:57:48 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
This is why the Federation must be destroyed!

Aaaaaaaaand take another shot!

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#246 - 2013-08-12 18:01:13 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Drink!


And not just because Kim seems to now confuse Khanid with Gallentians, but to forget the mental imagery I'm now stuck with.


Love you too, Cael!
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#247 - 2013-08-12 18:18:05 UTC
Drinking is not professional!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#248 - 2013-08-12 18:52:11 UTC
Neither is firing on fellow militia members, but that didn't stop you.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Katarina Musana
Clan Leshya Offworld Venture Enterprise
#249 - 2013-08-12 19:24:44 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
We can't very well abandon an alliance that's vital to the security of the State, simply because we find some of our Ally's social policies to be not to our tastes. Neither can we avoid performing actions vital to the well-being of that alliance in case we offend the Republic - which has sided with our ancient enemy and declared war on us!


Assisting in the capturing of Minmatar systems on our side of the warzone is not "performing actions vital to the well-being" of anything. It'd be one thing if you'd been helping the Amarr defend territory on their side of the warzone, but you were in Aldodan, right next to Minmatar hi-sec, and that's where all the other squids plexing in our warzone are.

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You know how often systems flip in the warzone - why do you have heavily populated planets there? Relocate those people! It's not like the Republic didn't sign the CEWPA along with the other Empires - for better or for worse. By now there's been enough time to repurpose those colonies to simple resource generators, perhaps even industrial processors.


I could say the same about your complaints about Gallente taking control of systems in Black Rise. And, in case you hadn't noticed, we lack a lot of the resources the State would have for such a thing.

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Anyway. I'm sure your government has thought this over. Here's the thing though, as I understood it, taking slaves from the civilian population of the warzone is illegal, isn't it? In both the Kingdom and the Empire. Isn't that right? Now, I'm not sure if Prisoners of War count as Criminals in the Empire - although I don't see how that could be legal, since Prisoners of War are supposed to be available for repatriation, aren't they - but even if they are, loitering in a military complex in order to lure enemy forces in after you is hardly equivalent to slaving innocent Matari. Security forces ought to be evacuated when the system become vulnerable - even demobilising them would make them citizens and therefore protect them from slavery, no?


You would have to ask the Amarrians for specifics on the legality, assuming they'd tell you the truth in the first place. But legality hasn't stopped them from making slave raids in the past, so even if it is technically illegal, why would we believe they're not taking any slaves from such worlds?

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In any case. The war is legal. Your government declared war on ours and signed the Act that defines legal methods of making war. So long as we act within those and you act within those, neither of our organisations has the right to raise legitimate complaint, right?


No one has claimed you're doing anything illegal, but that you were doing something morally wrong.

Diana Kim wrote:
Speaking about slaves and prisoners of war, recently I have found a couple (or maybe a bit more than a couple) of Electus Matari ships, attacking State systems.

Well, I couldn't let crew to die in wrecks, and couldn't dispose of them like I do with gallentean crews, who were too unfortunate to meet me. So I have salvaged and transferred them to authority in the Empire for the proper justice.

They were definitely not happy about that. I would like to note, that I have transferred them as POWs, because I am, as a Caldari citizen, can't take slaves. But I guess their destiny is slavery in the Empire. Actually I don't know what will happen to them next, and it is not my business, really. I know only that if I were in such situation, I would better kill myself instead of getting into enemy's hands. But, meh, they are matari after all, they are used to be slaves...


You're starting to sound a lot like Veikitamo Gesakaarin, Ms. Kim; but isn't she a traitor to the Caldari, or something, according to you?
Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#250 - 2013-08-12 20:04:12 UTC
Katarina Musana wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Speaking about slaves and prisoners of war, recently I have found a couple (or maybe a bit more than a couple) of Electus Matari ships, attacking State systems.

Well, I couldn't let crew to die in wrecks, and couldn't dispose of them like I do with gallentean crews, who were too unfortunate to meet me. So I have salvaged and transferred them to authority in the Empire for the proper justice.

They were definitely not happy about that. I would like to note, that I have transferred them as POWs, because I am, as a Caldari citizen, can't take slaves. But I guess their destiny is slavery in the Empire. Actually I don't know what will happen to them next, and it is not my business, really. I know only that if I were in such situation, I would better kill myself instead of getting into enemy's hands. But, meh, they are matari after all, they are used to be slaves...


You're starting to sound a lot like Veikitamo Gesakaarin, Ms. Kim; but isn't she a traitor to the Caldari, or something, according to you?


There's a small difference between State-run holding facilities within the Kingdom, with a remaining open offer for prisoner exchange, and just dumping unwanted prisoners into Amarrian custody without caring for what the result is.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#251 - 2013-08-12 20:45:09 UTC
Katarina Musana wrote:
You're starting to sound a lot like Veikitamo Gesakaarin, Ms. Kim; but isn't she a traitor to the Caldari, or something, according to you?


I will kill you for such comparison.
Or, maybe do something better. I guess Empire authorities will find something to discuss with you in person.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#252 - 2013-08-12 20:53:01 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I will kill you for such comparison.

I agree that such a comparison is completely unwarranted. Ms. Gesakaarin is far too honourable a person to be compared to you.

You should be compared to Admiral Eturer, the Gallentean traitor admiral.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#253 - 2013-08-12 21:04:43 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I will kill you for such comparison.

I agree that such a comparison is completely unwarranted. Ms. Gesakaarin is far too honourable a person to be compared to you.

You should be compared to Admiral Eturer, the Gallentean traitor admiral.

Can you say something not stupid for a change?
Or at least something less stupid than this? I guess it would be possible even for such backward gallentean as you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#254 - 2013-08-12 21:08:12 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I will kill you for such comparison.

I agree that such a comparison is completely unwarranted. Ms. Gesakaarin is far too honourable a person to be compared to you.

You should be compared to Admiral Eturer, the Gallentean traitor admiral.

Can you say something not stupid for a change?
Or at least something less stupid than this? I guess it would be possible even for such backward gallentean as you.


Strange fact for you: if you have an opinion, but nobody else does, chances are, you're wrong.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#255 - 2013-08-12 21:16:39 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Can you say something not stupid for a change?
Or at least something less stupid than this? I guess it would be possible even for such backward gallentean as you.

The funny thing is you're just throwing insults. You haven't actually pointed out why any of what I - or, more to the point, any of the community of detractors known as "pretty much everyone else" - have been saying is actually wrong. You've just called it Gallentean propaganda and delusions, but even laying aside the fact that the vast majority of people you've addressed recently haven't even been Gallentean (I, for example, am not Gallentean), being Gallentean doesn't automatically make someone wrong by any conventional form of logic. All you're doing is deflecting attention from the fact that you don't really have counterarguments to anything anyone else is saying to you.

I compared you to Admiral Eturer because you're an open and unrepentant traitor to the country you claim to serve, and you exemplify all the worst traits of both Gallentean and Caldari society.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#256 - 2013-08-12 21:31:32 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Can you say something not stupid for a change?
Or at least something less stupid than this? I guess it would be possible even for such backward gallentean as you.

The funny thing is you're just throwing insults.

Look, that's what you did. And... did you expect something ELSE... really?...
Poor deluded gallentean child!


Andreus Ixiris wrote:

I compared you to Admiral Eturer because you're an open and unrepentant traitor to the country you claim to serve

That's the most stupid and ridiculous lie that I ever heard yet.
Too much hallucinogenic gallentean mushrooms lately?
What is inside your current clone's head? Rotten mush, eh?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#257 - 2013-08-12 21:47:39 UTC
Again you kind of prove my point. You're just throwing (entirely inaccurate) racial slurs without providing any counterarguments.

You've repeatedly and shameleslsy declared loyalty to a citizen of the State who has repeatedly and shamelessly acted against the interests of the Caldari people to advance his own agenda, and who has been declared a traitor by every legitimate authority within the State. You have subsequently denounced the CEP, the one and only legitimate governing body of the State, Ishukone, who, due to being the most intelligent and least politically blind corporation in the State were the only reason the State maintains even partial control of Caldari Prime and finally, the other megacorporations, who have been doing their level best to drag the State back from the financial abyss Heth plummeted it into. You have threatened, and in more than one case engaged in violence against legitimate, honourable State loyalists such as Verin Hakatain, Pieter Tuulinen and the Pyre-Falcon Combine. You have advocated for nationalisation of the State's industries which runs directly contrary to the spirit of the nation.

You have repeatedly stated your eagerness to receive and follow orders from a man who has been named traitor and stripped of his misused powers by not only every legitimate organisation in the State. He has repeatedly declared his intention to lead a second invasion of Caldari Prime, which would not only be illegal by international law, it would also violate treaties that the other corporations have signed, which would hurt the State. You have pledged support to the cause of genocide, which violates not only international law but the very founding principles upon which the State was based.

If you pledge loyalty to a traitor - which is inarguably what Heth is - you are also a traitor.

You are a traitor.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#258 - 2013-08-12 22:07:36 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Again you kind of prove my point. You're just throwing (entirely inaccurate) racial slurs without providing any counterarguments.

You've repeatedly and shameleslsy declared loyalty to a citizen of the State who has repeatedly and shamelessly acted against the interests of the Caldari people to advance his own agenda, and who has been declared a traitor by every legitimate authority within the State. You have subsequently denounced the CEP, the one and only legitimate governing body of the State, Ishukone, who, due to being the most intelligent and least politically blind corporation in the State were the only reason the State maintains even partial control of Caldari Prime and finally, the other megacorporations, who have been doing their level best to drag the State back from the financial abyss Heth plummeted it into. You have threatened, and in more than one case engaged in violence against legitimate, honourable State loyalists such as Verin Hakatain, Pieter Tuulinen and the Pyre-Falcon Combine. You have advocated for nationalisation of the State's industries which runs directly contrary to the spirit of the nation.

You have repeatedly stated your eagerness to receive and follow orders from a man who has been named traitor and stripped of his misused powers by not only every legitimate organisation in the State. He has repeatedly declared his intention to lead a second invasion of Caldari Prime, which would not only be illegal by international law, it would also violate treaties that the other corporations have signed, which would hurt the State. You have pledged support to the cause of genocide, which violates not only international law but the very founding principles upon which the State was based.

If you pledge loyalty to a traitor - which is inarguably what Heth is - you are also a traitor.

You are a traitor.

Counterargument to WHAT?
To deluded lies, groundless assumptions, shameless insults and useless ranting like THIS?!
Spare me.

And go to hell.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#259 - 2013-08-12 22:18:38 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Counterargument to WHAT?
To deluded lies, groundless assumptions, shameless insults and useless ranting like THIS?!
Spare me.

And go to hell.

You can dismiss things as "deluded lies, groundless assumptions, shameless insults and useless ranting," but... really, that's just projection. Projection, in case you aren't aware, is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person unconsciously rejects his or her own unacceptable attributes by ascribing them to objects or persons in the outside world.

So in case you haven't caught up yet, I'm pointing out that the things you accuse others of doing are, in fact, actually things that you do yourself.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#260 - 2013-08-12 22:41:05 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Counterargument to WHAT?
To deluded lies, groundless assumptions, shameless insults and useless ranting like THIS?!
Spare me.

And go to hell.

You can dismiss things as "deluded lies, groundless assumptions, shameless insults and useless ranting," but... really, that's just projection. Projection, in case you aren't aware, is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person unconsciously rejects his or her own unacceptable attributes by ascribing them to objects or persons in the outside world.

You call your insults and all this bullshit as "attributes"?
Are you really that high?
Well, I thought you were just making up insults, but wait... do you really believe in what you were saying about me?!
Then you will definitely need a professional help.
A professional psychiatric help.
As for me, I would suggest euthanasia, but well... if they lock you up in asylum, it could work.

Andreus Ixiris wrote:

So in case you haven't caught up yet, I'm pointing out that the things you accuse others of doing are, in fact, actually things that you do yourself.

What?...

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.