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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#101 - 2013-09-22 15:24:28 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Go diving on the great barrier reef.


Are incapable of not being a complete jerk?
You and your kind are the reason that people like the OP leave the game.

Of course, rather than being ashamed of that fact, you glory in it.
Ezslider
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#102 - 2013-09-22 15:56:04 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Go diving on the great barrier reef.


Are incapable of not being a complete jerk?
You and your kind are the reason that people like the OP leave the game.

Of course, rather than being ashamed of that fact, you glory in it.


You sir need to wash the sand out of you va jay jay.

Seriously, we had some person post behind an anonymous character, about some kind of malady that was designed to draw some emo.

If someone really has come to grips with their mortality and has dealt with it for a long period of time, they would not be trotting it out here nor have some type of illusions of grandeur thinking that helping other anonymous players will change the way they see life away from the key board.
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2013-09-22 16:00:24 UTC
I guess I don't get this post. Every single mining corp I have ever known of is full of carebears that help each other and talk on vent/ts all day long. Did you somehow not join one of these corps?

If you want thankless EVE trying being a nullsec trader. I did that for like 6 years. The way that works is you bring ammo, minerals and modules to people's stations and they reward you by attempting to pod you and setting up death traps for you.

The way life works is that about 3% of people in the world want to be your friend, 70% of people could care less, and the remaining 27% want to take advantage of you (these percentages change as you age). One strategy is to try to find the 3%.Idea
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#104 - 2013-09-22 16:14:06 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Go diving on the great barrier reef.


Are incapable of not being a complete jerk?
You and your kind are the reason that people like the OP leave the game.

Of course, rather than being ashamed of that fact, you glory in it.

EVE online ... far too real

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#105 - 2013-09-22 16:39:40 UTC
Not letting gaming addicts control a game you play for fun: being mean.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Freako X
Doom Inc
#106 - 2013-09-22 16:49:38 UTC
Sorry for your medical condition. You will be in my thoughts.

I think stopping to play may be the right thing to do. Focus on the people in your life who will benefit from your direct involvement and conversations. 15+ hours a day doing one thing is too much. Get back in touch with your RL friends and family and enjoy the moment. Kindness in RL is much better than kindness in a pixel universe.

Good Luck and Peace!
Caldari Citizen 20111003
Electronic Frontier N.A.
#107 - 2013-09-22 16:57:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Caldari Citizen 20111003
TBH.. You should try wormholes.. There is alot of hurf blurf about wormholes.. but the attitudes of most corps in wormholes are nice..alot more mature.. people will always rip you off.. but the hole of wormholes is really like a big family.. everyone counts.. i think that has alot to do with the small scale pvp aspect of it.. not another f1 er...

And there are some heavily newb friendly groups like brave newbies and eve uni if it is still around.. you could join one of them and just help people new to the game.. but like the wise chribba said.. giving a few mil to a thousand newbies is much better then helping older players plex accounts..

You will truely do more for the community by taking them with you on missions and helping them buy there first destroyers.. then helping some lazy as buy a plex when tbh he can prob afford himself he is just taking advantage of it just like everyone else..

Or even better.. go to a newb system and make a REAL isk doubling service.. for newbs..

I mean a well run 10 hrs of missions can net a decent amount of isk and it will do the most good to newbies who dont have 500 mil or 100 bil.. a 5 mil isk destroyer is like a ferrari to some of them.. and you will be making a large impact on the community by helping new players figure it out..

Just make sure they know your literally the only nice person in new eden lol
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#108 - 2013-09-22 17:04:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
I reamind you this is necroed thread that lives again without OP present. I would be more caring about real life now if I would be him. I don't know why ISD didn't lock it down...

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Novah Soul
#109 - 2013-09-22 17:09:56 UTC
Ravaun wrote:
So I finally realized just how truly cold blooded Eve is. Alot of people will go QQ, I don't exactly care, I just thought I'd share how I finally realized it.

I have poor health in Real Life, tumors on my spine and around it. I have organs starting to fail, I just have little else I can do in RL but..well. Nothing, so I decided to focus on things to help people, I can't do it in RL, but I could in Eve. I ran incursions 18/7, so I could maintain a sizable ISK income, trying to plex people who needed it, on a daily basis, plex my self as needed, keep my ship going so I could stay at running incursions 18/7. I actively decided, to play Eve, to carebear. I decided, that if I was ganked, I'd not fight back, but infact, ask if I could do any thing to make their future game play more pleasurable, if they needed help PLEXING to stay in game. Some people haven't the RL finnances to maintain their game after all.

I got burned by the group I flew with, every one told me I was just being trolled, but how often do you troll some one that isn't involved with running a community, and not state they are welcome back?

Ultimately, I realized, I wasn't actually valued in the Eve Community for what I did. No one -cares- cares about it. Eve is a pretty cold place in the end. Fortunately, with the amount of PLEX I bought for my self, I can snicker that it's pretty likely my account will expire -after- I do. Maybe I shouldn't find this funny, but I do. A MMO account out lives the owner.


So let the troll posts begin against me, but it doesn't really matter, I can no longer sustain my play style in Eve Online. Don't really hate the game as a whole, but it showed me how bitter and cold people are. I guess I should have seen it coming after how often you read about being ****** over in one way or another in this game. It's alot like betting on the Horses; one moment it's fine, the next your wiped out and begging in the soup kitchen. I could probably plex my self for eternity on strip mining, but that doesn't let me do what I really wanted from Eve; to help others in game, as I can no longer do so in Real Life.

Sorry to hear things have went sour for ya Rav. I've personally always enjoyed the chats and banter when your on in that incursion channel. Hope things get better for you.

A man is known by the quality of his friends. - Lex Luthor
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2013-09-22 17:13:37 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
I reamind you this is necroed thread that lives again without OP present. I would be more caring about real life now if I would be him. I don't know why ISD didn't lock it down...


If what the OP was saying about his medical condition is true, he might actually be dead already while people are still talking to him in this topic.








Isnt that just a morbid thought.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#111 - 2013-09-22 17:15:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project's Alt
****, necro.


KuroVolt wrote:
Isnt that just a morbid thought.

No. You're morbid.

Buy Solstice Project for PLEX4GOOD ! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=301266 (this alt-character will get deleted once the sale is done, on 6th of december)
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#112 - 2013-09-22 17:42:40 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
I reamind you this is necroed thread that lives again without OP present. I would be more caring about real life now if I would be him. I don't know why ISD didn't lock it down...


If what the OP was saying about his medical condition is true, he might actually be dead already while people are still talking to him in this topic.








Isnt that just a morbid thought.


http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ravaun

OP is currently training Motion Prediction to level 5, looks pretty alive to me.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#113 - 2013-09-22 17:51:09 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Go diving on the great barrier reef.


Are incapable of not being a complete jerk?
You and your kind are the reason that people like the OP leave the game.

Of course, rather than being ashamed of that fact, you glory in it.


Calm down cupcake.

If I had the OPs issues I wouldn't be playing an Icelandic game renowned for its brutality if it upset me. I would be out there doing things like diving on the barrier reef.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#114 - 2013-09-22 17:57:13 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Go diving on the great barrier reef.


Are incapable of not being a complete jerk?
You and your kind are the reason that people like the OP leave the game.

Of course, rather than being ashamed of that fact, you glory in it.


Calm down cupcake.

If I had the OPs issues I wouldn't be playing an Icelandic game renowned for its brutality if it upset me. I would be out there doing things like diving on the barrier reef.




---> see https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3384687#post3384687

The funny thing is that Dinsdale didn't realize that this was a necro and was bitching about the very same post a second time- well at least he is consistent.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#115 - 2013-09-22 18:15:11 UTC
If feel sorry for his problems. But what can 1 man do. Everyone here will die soon or later even with healthy care we can die right now. This "account and this player" < me I try "if the game last that long" past to my youngest son and continue the journey what I have started. "if the game last that long"

So at least I can give him something I like and passion about it.
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2013-09-22 18:39:47 UTC
We all have sob stories. In a community this large, someone is bound to have a far more tragic tale to tell but doesn't use it as an excuse.

Eve players are just people. No more malicious in wanting to defeat you than the other guy in a chess game. It's simply childish to take loss in a game personally. How these people survive actual real world adversity is beyond me.

I've never met another Eve player in RL that I know in game- yet I consider many people here friends beyond Eve.
My mother died the day before I was able to fly home to see her.....my corp mates were among the first to offer condolence and comfort. I received dozens of well wishes when I had my foot amputated a couple months ago. (yeah, cry me a river about back problems...). People from around the world that I've never actually met, have simply been regular people- friends- to me both within the game and without.

If you can't count a single friend among a couple hundred thousand people, then just perhaps the problem isn't with us.
Aadris
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#117 - 2013-09-22 20:20:03 UTC
Sorry about your medical condition. In Eve, like the rest if life, there are lots of nice people playing this game, and lots of jerks too.

This sounds discriminatory - but the key is not to make friends with uber nerds. Make friends with the ones that have wives or girlfriends, mates they hang out with in real life, and that sound balanced and normal. I'm a game developer for a living and have been into nerdy **** (games, wargaming, computers) my whole life but am normal socially. I can go to a dinner party or hang out with some new friends of mate of mine without much trouble.

The key signs of people that are socially deficient are often fairly easy to see.

If they're the sort of people that make you cringe when they boast all the time, trashtalk other people, are quick to anger and slow to forgive about trivial stuff, delight in trashing or ******* over others, and they generally talk and behave like little children, avoid them.

I'm not talking about anyone who is just a bit socially awkward - it's the ones with egos, the angry, rude, shrill, malignant ones that are to be avoided. There are a lot of adults that are in social terms still children or adolescents in Eve, and just in modern Western societies in general. The internet is a great breeding ground for bad behavior and a place that doesn't punish this like real life or in polite society. It doesn't have the forms of social verification that are normally applied to stop you bumping into awful people - Because I know my friend is decent guy, I know his friends are probably decent too. Because to new guy at work went through a proper hiring process and worked with a few of my other colleges at a different place, I know he's probably not a total total douche. The internet has none of these barriers and so you end up bumping into people who normally would be put on the trash bin in other spheres of life.

It's not worth spending time and being friends with people that aren't socially capable of behaving like adults. Hope you're still playing and find some better people to play with.
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#118 - 2013-09-22 20:32:04 UTC
Too many BSers to play the sympathy card here and in-game, sorry. Sad Keep your RL and Game life separated. Act as if you will live for ever (in-Game). Make your mark, if that's what you are playing for or just be part of sifi experience of the hobby.

Life is so fleeting to dwell on the opinions of others. Even mine. Blink

Empire, the next new world order.
JoJo Rumbles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2013-09-22 20:34:22 UTC
Ravaun wrote:
So I finally realized just how truly cold blooded Eve is.

...so I decided to focus on things to help people, I can't do it in RL, but I could in Eve. I ran incursions 18/7, so I could maintain a sizable ISK income, trying to plex people who needed it, on a daily basis, plex my self as needed, keep my ship going so I could stay at running incursions 18/7.

I got burned by the group I flew with, every one told me I was just being trolled, but how often do you troll some one that isn't involved with running a community, and not state they are welcome back?
Dude, you're running yourself ragged over internet peoples well being. Stop doing this to yourself. Doing pretty much anything 18/7 will cause problems. Even Mother Teresa and Gandhi took breaks as needed.

Come play with us in our corp. We don't measure the game by killboards or isk-per-hour. We measure it by fun-per-hour and there is much to be had. We're so bad at this game that it's actually an advantage.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#120 - 2013-09-22 20:36:44 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
So OP's corp history said that he actually joined Krypteia Operations for several hours after getting this offer.
Erotica, Riot Girl, whoever, I'd appreciate if you could provide the whole sad and dramatic story of what happened within those 8 hours.

Pretty please?


You know I need drama like oxygen...

We just did a few therapy sessions which Ravaun found very helpful and as a sign of his appreciation, he donated some assets and funds so that I can help more people like him. Thanks for your donation, Ravaun, it has helped me to continue doing my good work.

Oh god.