EVE General Discussion

*smile* I unfortunately, made a policy to pretty much fly Corpless because they can directly lead to losses, and as I said, I stopped playing. I appreciate the offer. :)

That's too bad, I'm looking to make a new friend just like you. Oh well.

That makes it sound like there is more to the story than what is posted here. On the other hand, it's true that EvE, like life, is full of assholes.

Either way, given your IRL situation, it sounds like the bottom line is that you have a limited time that you would like to spend some of enjoying this game and leaving something positive that other players will remember you for.

I recommend that the best thing you could do right now, both to have some fun and to make a lasting impact on the game, would be to join EVE University. They have an incursion fleet program that is specifically oriented to helping newer players gear up and learn to run them. If you are already well geared for and experienced in incursions, then you could do a lot of good helping other new players learn to run them. Your ISK donations either to the University generally, the incursion program, or to individual players also would be welcomed and certainly well remembered. I cannot vouch for how active the UNI incursion fleet is, because I have not run with them myself, but I think it is the best starting point for you to do good and feel good from playing the game the way you like.

Correct me if I am wrong, but basicly the OPs post comes across as when I help someone I want some bloody recognition and I actually agree with that sentiment. As far as I can tell from my limited perspective, it might be worthwhile to change who you are helping, and why. You should get a piece of the pie too, whether that is by sheer recognition or services rendered. It sounds like you are helping people financially (with raw ISK) now. There are a gazillion other ways to help people that will elevate your from a simple ISK faucet to a helpfull member of a community.

For example, I help people getting their feet wet with PVP and (solo) piracy. That's knowledge a player is going to use his entire eve-carreer. We offers some POS based services and low tax on our customs offices in lowsec. While it isn't much and we get our faces kicked in daily by guys that are plain better then us, I recieve recognition in the form of many thank-you's and even monetary donations to the corp. I'd only help a hostile if he's a newbie, apart from that my loyalties lie with my corp / alliance only.

Social studies indicate having a common enemy, gives people a sense of collective identity and this is what you should be be helping and protecting. My help is exclusive. Yours is not. Make it more exclusive and don't be scared to pick sides. You will see your help be valued more because it isn't given freely to every random joe and his mom, it's given out of loyalty and commitment to the cause of a larger entity. People value this exclusiveness, as it strengthens your group as a whole.

Why not take a break, approach the game from a new angle?

Pilots are different than players =(

If you still have a need to help, another thing to do is build up a set of skillbooks for a specific type of player (pi, pvp, miner etc) and make an alt and join rookie help, or even e-uni channel or something and and just talk to new players, find out what they want to do with eve, and make a decision about gifting.

You'll get the fun of interaction, you won't be faced with cynicism and would rarely deal with a jaded individual.

Plus, you'd have the satisfaction of helping a new player enjoy Eve and maybe even pay it forward.

It is, as far as I know, the largest high sec corp in the game. The only people who would view it as "small and unhelpful" are those who have never been in it.

I'm sure the incursion fleet is not as hardcore as the "pros" like ISN (it is a corp made up largely of noobs, after all), but they have other programs as well, through which a lot of generous veteran players give a lot of help to their many newer members. They also have other strictly carebearing programs, like a mining camp in Amarr space. Again, I'm not sure how active it is at the moment, but I am sure you can find something to do within the UNI that would both be fun for you and would let you contribute in a way other players will remember.

hey tumor boy.

Looks like you are looking for a reason to live and EVE is probably not it. if you want to play EVE do it for the reason that you enjoy playing not that you are doing good in the world

In my time in EVE

1. i have spent a couple of long nights on mumble talking people out of suicide
2. Told people that Dignatis is not the answer to their problems

I have talked to middle aged men who are divorced and jobless and are looking for anything to mask the pain and this game is it

someone with an inoperable tumor of the brain.

Its endless.


If you want a reason to live look at the support groups in your area as they need people like yourself to give support to the lost, it may be the most fulfilling thing you ever do with your life. You could probably start at a pain clinic or your local GP.


My deal is that i have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. So im pretty much ******. And guess what most long term players are pretty ****** as well.

All my best to you.

I think if I keep responding, it looks like I'm just trying to be talked into Eve :) I'm pretty sure alot of my friends are going to email me endlessly to do so to begin with.

I just want to leave a piece of advise/Tagline I oft said- Ego sum Deus meus; I am my Own God.

We all make our own decisions, it's up to each of us to treat others decently. Every one plays a game to have fun, but you don't need to swear and curse and belittle some one to have fun killing their ship.

\o In the end, I guess people were right when they said I'm weird. :)

Well if you do decide to keep playing, feel free to get in touch.

The situation sucks, but just the same as real life we are often surrounded by twats, with no consideration for others. No good deed goes unpunished is an axiom I see happening all the time.

I applaud you play style, I am only fairly new but I would hope to be one day the head of, or high up in, a corp where I could be a lot of help to newer players.

It is a shame that the actions of other have denied you something that, where you are at the moment in the real world, is obviously bringing you a lot of happiness. Start your own corp, keep control of what happens in it and be your own boss. I'd come work for you in an instant and never ask for ISK, I am in a not dissimilar position myself in real life so the game gives me a great escape and a lot of enjoyment as well - I expect you would get quite a few people who share your principles want to join too.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.