Wormholes

My nerf-list:

1. scaling down of the 'Power Core Multiplier' to make 100mn fits much ahrder and disallow dual 1600 plates
2. scaling down of ehp-bonuses for the defensive buffer systems by a few %
3. maybe increase in size and increase in signature
4. more certainly a speed/maneuverability nerf

1 and 2 should reduce defensive capabilities to a level slightly below the new command ships
3 and 4 would be to create a greater gap towards the new hacs.

I think the dps range is mostly fine and should only be touched where it clearly outperforms the according race's battlecruisers.

On t2 side I would like to see more 'combat' in combat recons and more armor fleet viability in recons overall, so they would actually be alternatives for t3s in current fleet compositions.

i believe they said T3s will be last to rebalance

you apparently don't actually know.. well anything. Or your a moongoop guy who wants isk (a cartel alt who knows).

1) Disallowing stuff is.. well you know. That and I am less against 1600 plates. 1) Ships that doubleplate are bricks that takes an hour to actually move. 2) Had a room of sleepers almost alpha my dual plate legion (Carrier saved me after putting two reppers on me). They'll review it, what they should do to it, I have no opinion, a blanket restriction doesn't work. CCP may literally just raise Afterburner and MWD powergrids of the 100mn to achieve that.


2) The scaling on the buffer of the buffer systems is more of a issue of the 3 other systems than the hp bonus system. Those have to be reviewed.

3) Size and Sig is not a big issue. That is not a complaint a ton of people have.

4) Speed and maneuverability is directly proportionate to the 100mn afterburners. That isn't much of a issue.

IF CCP addresses the 75% of all subsystems nobody uses, and tweaks the 100mn fits, that would be enough. I'd rather improvements go into the subsystems nobody uses than flat nerfs to the entire line, because that does not address anything.

Like I said,

1) They'll be a review of the tengu.

2) They'll look at the 100mn fits.

3)I they'll touch the fittings vs propulsion vs tank.

4) they'll improve the nonused subsystems and really come up with some interesting fits

I expect they'll come up with a possible logistical fit for these ships "we somewhat need alternatives to the guardian, but that is asking allot out of CCP"

A droneboat setup for the proteus,

tweaks to the laser and ham fits of the legion,

a fix to the dual weaponization of the loki (dual missile/art doesn't work, they'll rework the subsystem),

and just a general review of the tengu itself.

This is not a nerf list. If you are looking at this as that, you are looking at this the wrong way.

No more artillery loki?

You are right. This is only an issue when you compare T3s to Hacs.
Just took a second look a signatures and I have to be more precise: SIgnatures might only be a little out of proportion when the new mwd bonus doesn't come into play for Hacs.


Speed is. Maneuverability is rather antiproportinale to a 100mn fitting, because the ships turns as fast as a Carrier when the ab is switched on (not literally, but it feels like it).

You can build a ham legion that does more damage, has more tank, is more agile and faster than a Sacrilege. I doubt that's the way it should be.




No, yours isn't, mine was. I was just focussing on those things that currently might be considered 'too good' and could/should/might be regulated down.

Revisiting the less useful sub-systems is a necessary and also very welcome step. If this results in more versatility and more fitting options, I will definitely not complain.

The only thing that I sort of agree with here is that the sig factor should probably be more appropriate for the tank on configurations that allow for large tanks.

I'm dead against changes that reduce the ability to do inventive, outside the box or even just plain whacked fits as it helps to keep the game interesting even if sometimes it leads to overpowered fits.

Yea, unfortunately I actually expected HACs to become mostly viable. Silly me.

Actually the whole 100mn fits can be addressed by increasing the grid on afterburner and microwarp drives. It does not even need to be a very high bump. A "just enough" works.

I am not saying they should go, but if your going to fit them on a ship that actually works, that boat's going to be a bling machine well over a few billion, than a just a T2 setup.

Oddly enough allot of people try to fit there ships that way.

And on the legion, had an entire c6 room target me, web, scram, neut, then try to alpha my cute little ship.

That was slightly horrifying when I saw the ship go into about 25% armor in 3 seconds.

Sometimes there is no excuse. Anyway, not a nerf, we'll see what ccp proposes.