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Ways to Improve Data Access Speeds?
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Edlorna Tinebe
The Elerium Trust
#1 - 2011-10-26 05:12:09 UTC
Well, I got wine installed. Got the graphics and the sound and the textures and even the fonts working. The framerates are fantastic. I didn't even really have to do anything, it all worked out-of-the box. Life is great!

... Or it would be, except that it takes forever for EVE to access any data under wine. Every time I try to open the market, or open a new chat window, or undock or... Just about anything that makes EVE retrieve data from somewhere else, it seems to take four to five times as long as it does under Windows. This is most noticeable when warping to a stargate, for example. As soon as I hit that 250km mark, my computer seems to freeze for up to ten seconds as the game tries to load the textures and model data for anything that happens to be near the gate. Once it's done, I get to watch my ship advance to the gate in fast-forward as everything catches up.

Every other aspect of the game works fine But that data access speed is horrible. Painful, even. Are there any special tricks to clearing that up? I'm currently running Fedora 15, with the standard wine package in the repo. I dual-boot Windows, so I can still play that way, but... I lose everything else.
Ravow
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-10-26 05:22:38 UTC
Wich video drivers do you use (maybe the transfer rate of the textures is slower)?

Personally, When I boot my computer, EVE is unpacked into a ZRAM ramdrive so, It's in RAM and compressed, faster than accessing hard drive.
White Jester
S Is Here
#3 - 2011-10-26 18:37:05 UTC
First of all post your PC specs.
Katrina Bekers
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2011-10-27 11:20:42 UTC
I chime in to report similar "problems". They're not really problems, mind you, the game is very playable on an old Phenom Quad 2.3GHz, 4GB 800MHz, SATAII 7200rpm and GeForce 560Ti/1GB.

Still, it seems like the game is serially accessing I/O and video/physics. So when it loads data from disk/net, it's unable to do anything else.

Maybe the tiny little bit of concurrency/asynchronicity the client uses is lost when it's run within WINE?

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White Jester
S Is Here
#5 - 2011-10-27 17:51:03 UTC
uhm. Srsly it's not the right behavior so it's a problem, but i think it might be memory or disk related.
If you have spare just try switching ram or try moving eve wine prefix to another disk and see what happens.
Leod Athas
TURN LEFT
#6 - 2011-10-29 11:20:12 UTC
Ravow wrote:
Wich video drivers do you use (maybe the transfer rate of the textures is slower)?

Personally, When I boot my computer, EVE is unpacked into a ZRAM ramdrive so, It's in RAM and compressed, faster than accessing hard drive.


This sounds clever. Could you explain the steps of this hack? And how much RAM do you save compared to doing this the tmpfs way?
Edlorna Tinebe
The Elerium Trust
#7 - 2011-11-06 06:21:53 UTC
Well, I found the problem. It's really rather embarrassing. The problem was that I had not installed the corefonts using winetricks, as suggested. I only began looking up guides on how to get EVE working after I had installed everything and encountered the load-speed problems. Since I hadn't noticed any trouble with being able to read in the game, I had discounted it as a potential problem.

So. With the corefonts installed, data access speeds are up to par. Now, my framerate is the most noticeable problem. I know I said before that I was getting great framerates, but I suppose I only thought so because the loading speed was so much worse. On minimal settings, wine gets ~25 fps, while Windows gets 60+ at maximum. Oh, well... Every problem solved reveals a new one...
Ravow
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-11-07 16:25:05 UTC
What's your Video card and Video drivers?
Edlorna Tinebe
The Elerium Trust
#9 - 2011-11-13 19:11:55 UTC
I'm using an nVidia GTS 450 with the proprietary driver. I've booted windows for the moment, so I couldn't tell you precisely what version it is, but it's whichever is current on rpmfusion.
Elmore Jones
New Eden Mining Organisation
The Craftsmen
#10 - 2011-11-13 19:31:32 UTC
Turning off window transparency fro ESC > general tab helps a little. My 9600gt runs around 30-50fps average in eve under wine 1.3.32, latest nvidia drivers and ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3 shell with eve on med-low gfx settigns and 1080p monitor. Most of the frame rate drops are when spinning camera view in space or at end of warps.

CQ sucks on my machine in windows or linux equally at 15fps on mostly minimal settings.

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Talis Mahn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-11-15 05:10:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Talis Mahn
Edlorna Tinebe wrote:
I'm using an nVidia GTS 450 with the proprietary driver. I've booted windows for the moment, so I couldn't tell you precisely what version it is, but it's whichever is current on rpmfusion.


But which version of the Proprietary driver. I'm running an Asus 560GTX with the 270.41.06 drivers (I should install newer drivers. Waiting to build new system.) and I get 59+ FPS in space. CQ is really slow. Frame rate there is about half of space

One of the rare Linux Eve players