Missions & Complexes

To be fair, Germany wasn't any more at fault for WWI than the other powers, and they did get screwed over in the end.
The problem was a system of alliances, and small crud down in Serbia had a domino effect.

If it weren't for direct US intervention in 1917, they probably would have won.
In 1917:
* the Russians surrendered to German, enabling them to shift almost all their resources and troops to the west
* The French army began to mutiny, at one point 50% of the troops refused to fight, the mutinies were ended with the promise of no more offensives
* The US entered the war for BS reasons, and helped France repel the German attacks..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Army_Mutinies

Regarding WWII.... there is no excusing the genocide.... but...
Much of the polish territory was former German territory, its not a complete BS argument that Germany had some justification for trying to take it back (though it did lie and use false flag operations like the gleiwitz incident to bolster their case).

Lets not forget that two countries invaded Poland... Germany and Russia, but the rest of the "west" declared war on one, and allied with the other... wtf? also lets not forget that Russia invaded Finland with no justification...
The German invasion of France was completely justified, as France declared war on Germany, not vice versa (though, going through belgium, again, was wrong)

France + Britain + the US should have just sat back, and watched Germany and Russia go at it again... then step in when both sides have exhausted each other. -> While we're at it, lets give Russia the credit it deserves for defeating Germany.
The European war was effectively over after 1943 and the battle of Kursk. The Nazis were just too stubborn to realize it. The landings in Normandy in 1944 just made things go quicker.


Despite this above, more sympathetic towards Germany, view of history, that doesn't change my opinion of the DIN community as spoiled brats, sore losers, general pricks, etc,

It is cute how incursion bears become pvp experts all of a sudden when this issue comes up for discussion. Watch what they do, not what they say because they have never successfully pulled off the ganks necessary to accomplish their goals, and they never will.

Tops.. of course that would force us to reship, oh the horror.

To instead kill moms whenever we feel like it.


So asshats banned other asshats from tvp/isn primary.

Like contesting scrap metal fleets whenever we can so we can get 200m/h


Because forcing every community into one incursion helps contesting so much, right?


oh nos! they contesting our moms mimimi... DIN's modus operandi is not really a big seekrit

hf with your agreements

i dont think you need comparisons to rl events that barely fit when you can make use of the ingame lore... Take Citizen Aistur or Slave Endoman01 for example.. they enslaved thousands and no matter how often you kill them they will just reship and throw more minions at you...

take a guess which fc has become the next incarnation of sansha kuvakei himself..

1. Wall of text with poor grammar
2. Bringing RL politics/history into EVE-O
3. Zee Germans

What ever happened to 1st come 1st serve. These people that get mad that the MOM was popped are the product of a culture of "even the loser gets a trophy."

There had been an agreement between the incursion communities back then, that they could take turns popping the mom.. Armor community one time, then the shield community, then back to armor and so forth.

That went on for a good year I think, getting them all fat and lazy and settled in their seat ontop of the "food chain", thinking this would go on forever.
When more and more pilots started to find interest in Incursions, and didn't agree with the major communities, some split and made their own factions, and found themself strong enough to take down a incursion mothership, started to ask why they should be left out of the spoils.
The upper class's suddenly saw that their comfortable position ontop of the pyramid was in danger, so their responds were to ban, threaten and even attempted to gank/interupt the upstarts by harrashment tatics, in the form of blackbirds, and loot stealers when mom's were killed.

And I think that have resulted in the situation we are in now... More and more new communities starts to surface, some from old communities, others fresh of the block. And many of them able to field and kill motherships.