Warfare & Tactics

if they are i still dont get it. Swish over my head

so which part of this discussion was ******* with me so I can figure out whats going on with OGB?

Boosts are silly, a fully skilled siege link is the same as a whole t2 invul which means that slot can be replaced to make the ship effectively have an extra slot.

welllllll with an info a skirmish link (sorry. momentary lapse), and a recon ship, you can get a 90km web and a 90km warp disruptor. or an assault frigate with a 20km web, or 45km warp disruptor, or 16km warp scrambler. you can also give your frigate the signature radius of a scout drone, or your scimitar logi the signature radius of a frigate. and they're faster.

with an info link, you get longer jams, damps and tracking disruptors that hit harder. target painters to bloat signatures more. your ships have better sensor strength.

with a siege link, you can do all kinds of crazy things like shield tank an armor ship. or boost that assault frigate's resists and shield boost amount...

with each link you've practically doubled a ship's survivability. it's six times harder to kill, has tons more 'wtf' factor (how the f did I just get pointed?) and the benefits apply to anyone you add in fleet under the links.

the issue is, they don't have to be part of the fight. so you end up accepting a duel with a merlin but it has the stats of a harpy (siege), with extra long web and point (skirmish), and you can't figure out why your guns aren't hitting as often, or for as much damage (skirmish).

they don't even have to be in corp, so under a war dec, you can't attack your opponent's links.

they can sit in a POS forcefield, so in low/null/wh space you can't target them.

now that it's been explained to you, the responsible thing to do is start using a booster alt or two. or three. depending on whether you like to shield or armor, swap out the armor or siege booster. but the skirmish and info boosts are useful to you no matter what you're in.

[so much for avoiding the edit]

Not to mention an extra slot that can be filled with the tech 2 invuln without using any cpu.

@OP

Pvpers don't want to bring the other ship on grid for several reasons. Like some said its hard to dual box 2 ships on grid but also 1) they get a better looking killboard if it looks like they killed you solo. Having a loki on every killmail where your maulus kills another frigate doesn't look so good as a killmail that misleads people to think you did alone with the maulus. (although you can do this by bringing a logistics ship on grid) 2) If they brought the other ship in, people would know and stop fighting them. The ogb bonuses are too resists speed and range and therefore can't be confirmed by a killmail. So people won't know exactly why they died and might come again.

You don't need to have ogbs to fight in low sec. How prevelant they are is not clear. In fw space you will often see more t3 booster ships than combat ships on dscan. What percent of players use them is unclear because ccp fails to include them on killmails.

I think a gang link nerf was promised for Ody 1.1

So it might happen sometime after the Alliance tournament is over! \o/

because FW is where you see it the most because the battlefield is pre determined. its a little harder to do OGB when on a roam. Its also restricted in what kind of ships can participate. It seems to me that CCP is trying to setup a pvp arena type situation(controlled battlefield and type of ships) but then you have an unknown number of pvppppp involved hidden behind a curtain

I understand why the players did what they did. And if ccp is working on it then great. I could imagine where warping into a plex in fw boosts are cutoff. Like a curtain descending over the combatants in any fight. So everyone who has aggro on each other creates a network and no outside influences allowed. Or a bubble that expands/contracts around the players dependant on how far apart they are.

if you are armor tanked you should always fly with legion + loki + proteus

if you are shield tanked you should always fly with tengu + loki + proteus


tengu/legion + loki + proteus + your ship = the best solo pvp

tengu/legion for tank

loki for reduced incoming damage (sig radius), faster speed, longer ranges on point/web

proteus for preventing being jammed when someone brings a griffin to fight you 2v1 (2v1 is no fair against you solo with your 3 links)

Anyway, you need 4 plex per month to be effective.

You need to share what you are smoking, I want delusions as well!