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[Proposal] One time character name change per account with conditions.

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STush T
House of Tuachair
#61 - 2013-10-02 16:54:24 UTC
The ONLY reason i say 2bil is because it needs to be painful enough that the average scammer/griefer/obnoxious little $hit wouldnt want to do it. 2bil is high, but if you really hate your characters name, and youve hated it for awhile, 2 bill is worth it.
Course I dont hate my name so i can say "it should 2.45 trillion" no skin off my back.

But the point is it should hurt the iskies enough to make it only worthwhile to people who loathe their name.
Crystal Stills
Compendium Research Company
#62 - 2013-10-23 02:17:36 UTC
Just giving the thread a bump every once in a while as I want to see this happen.
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
#63 - 2013-11-03 22:23:21 UTC
Bumping for justice...

Not because of this toon, i love my main here.

Its an alt i bought off an old friend so an '04 toon didnt get biomassed. That friend def did NOT care about naming conventions... Its painful to even login with the name he's sporting...

As for reqs, dont tie it to /just/ isk. Baaad idea. We all know isk is not a balance for anything ( coughtitanscough ). Just give it a one-year cooldown, a 'x changed his name to y' notification to all watch-list holders, and an entry on an 'alias' tab. All ideas that make sense.

Hell, you could even make it use the remap counter, in conjunction with all the above requirements. Has a certain total-recall, lore-flavor to it, eh? Esp for those characters on the bazaar who're maybe looking for a completely new lease on life...

-st

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
Suran Parr
Os Terriveis
#64 - 2013-11-11 14:32:57 UTC
No, I would miss all those odd names that keep popping up in local.
Crystal Stills
Compendium Research Company
#65 - 2013-12-05 19:00:10 UTC
I wouldn't miss them, I rather see real names Big smile
Valentine Sukarala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-12-05 23:44:03 UTC
have we heard any thing about this?
Mad Monty Python
Dirty Pigeon Inc.
#67 - 2013-12-27 10:33:25 UTC
bump
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#68 - 2013-12-28 11:24:08 UTC
I made this name on a trial for the lulz....



5 years later....



Straight
ionageman TOG
security services
#69 - 2014-01-05 04:12:38 UTC


Can't understand why name / history isn't wiped when toon is sold .

Cost a fortune . Comes with baggage .

Why should the buyer be penalized for the previous owners sins .
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#70 - 2014-01-06 13:17:29 UTC
ionageman TOG wrote:


Can't understand why name / history isn't wiped when toon is sold .



DERP... because then it would be simple to whitewash characters with well known bad reputations.

ionageman TOG wrote:

Why should the buyer be penalized for the previous owners sins .


maybe the buyer should do some research into the item that hes buying, rather than simply looking at SPs.
A character is more than the number of his skill points.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
ionageman TOG
security services
#71 - 2014-01-07 12:53:48 UTC


Man that'd just kill the game in it's tracks . Huh.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#72 - 2014-01-15 04:40:46 UTC
I like the idea. No sec status restriction needs to apply. Why would it matter what the toons sec status is?

I didnt expect to play past the 21 day trial so I just typed my gamer tag as one word.
Lazy and stuff.

https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#73 - 2014-01-15 10:48:05 UTC
Although I am generally against this in principle, I'm not above making suggestions so if it does happen, its a bit more palatable Blink

One requirement to me would be that any past names appear on your profile (say, in a clear colour between where your character name and your titles appear), and that the old name is still linked to your character (so for example, any Eve Gate search of your old name (or even something close to it) would bring up your new character name as a possible result, and no-one else can ever reuse the name).

I might even argue that a symbol appear against your name in any chat channel windows (in particular local), that signifies you are known by other names, so more cautious people can be warned it might be worth checking your profile to make sure you aren't known to them in another form - although, depending how easy/cheap this service would be to use, this might be pointless if a large percentage of pilots use it (if half the pilots in the local window in any given system is showing the icon, people will stop taking it as a warning, so rendering in pointless).
Omad Kafshaz
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#74 - 2014-02-18 02:32:25 UTC
I think you should at least be allowed one name change if you buy a character from the character bazaar.
Deimos Caerus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-05-18 15:56:55 UTC
Just make it like with corp history so you can see name history of each player to avoid scam > change name > scam etc.

If you can see the previous names it shouldn't really cause any problems.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#76 - 2014-05-19 08:40:54 UTC
If your that "serious" about eve... start over with your preferred name.

After all, "serious" people will invest the 3-4 years to get back their SP....

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Omega Flames
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2014-05-22 02:30:17 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
ionageman TOG wrote:


Can't understand why name / history isn't wiped when toon is sold .



DERP... because then it would be simple to whitewash characters with well known bad reputations.

ionageman TOG wrote:

Why should the buyer be penalized for the previous owners sins .


maybe the buyer should do some research into the item that hes buying, rather than simply looking at SPs.
A character is more than the number of his skill points.

it is very difficult to impossible to research a toons reputation if that toon doesn't post in the forums. yes there are some tools to help keep track of scammers/spammers but they have very big holes in them and are not some defacto way to "research" a toon for sale.
Eave Galova
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2014-05-27 22:32:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Eave Galova
Please bump this.

I just copy pasted this from the Wiki on name changes. Wouldn't be tough to mimic real world policy, would it?

"It is necessary to plead that the name change is not for a fraudulent or other illegal purpose, such as evading a lien or debt or for defaming someone else. The applicant may be required to give a reasonable explanation for wanting to change her or his name. A fee is generally payable, and the applicant may be required to post legal notices in newspapers to announce the name change. Generally the judge has limited judicial discretion to grant or deny a change of name, usually only if the name change is for fraudulent, frivolous or immoral purposes."

Essentially, a name change in EVE would involve a simple background check including past corporations or petitions placed against you, as well as sec status at time of request. A decent explanation as to why a person would like to change their name seems logical, as well. Once the name is officially changed, definitely have a name history attached to the char, with a marker for anyone who's changed their name recently, as well as alerts for friends / corps of people who have. From a dev standpoint, this is less than a headache. I hope to see this implemented.

EDIT: Definitely have only allow Only ONE name change per char, including the request process listed above, so that this couldn't be abused over a longer EVE career.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2014-05-27 23:54:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Give it these limitations and I'll support:

1.) character has never destroyed a player ship owned by someone else, piloted or not, while in empire space
2.) character has not stolen goods within the last year
3.) character has stolen a total value under the current price of a PLEX throughout the entire character's lifespan
4.) character has never had a sec status below -0.5 at any point in time
5.) character has never been kicked from a corp
6.) character has never been given a personal standings below neutral by anyone

or alternatively, this limitation only:

1.) a search for the character's old name turns up the character in the search along with anyone else who actually has that as a current name, and the name history can be looked up on the character's info page.

TL;DR the most important bit is that it needs to not be usable as a way of hiding from a reputation. It should be obvious to all your friends and enemies who you are.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Kyle Tawate
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#80 - 2014-05-30 17:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyle Tawate
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Give it these limitations and I'll support:

1.) character has never destroyed a player ship owned by someone else, piloted or not, while in empire space
2.) character has not stolen goods within the last year
3.) character has stolen a total value under the current price of a PLEX throughout the entire character's lifespan
4.) character has never had a sec status below -0.5 at any point in time
5.) character has never been kicked from a corp
6.) character has never been given a personal standings below neutral by anyone

or alternatively, this limitation only:

1.) a search for the character's old name turns up the character in the search along with anyone else who actually has that as a current name, and the name history can be looked up on the character's info page.

TL;DR the most important bit is that it needs to not be usable as a way of hiding from a reputation. It should be obvious to all your friends and enemies who you are.

If you ran for csm, I will vote for you. This is the strategic thinking EVE leaders are currently missing. (Just realised you'e tes, so I don't know how my corp will feel about that statement)

Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO.