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[Proposal] One time character name change per account with conditions.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#41 - 2013-07-30 07:52:03 UTC
I'm sorry, but I do find it amusing that someone who gave themselves a name ending in 4Life, (misspelled presumably because the correct spelling was already taken?), is such a strong campaigner for a name change system.




Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Gamer4liff
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-07-30 21:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Gamer4liff
Jint Hikaru wrote:
I'm sorry, but I do find it amusing that someone who gave themselves a name ending in 4Life, (misspelled presumably because the correct spelling was already taken?), is such a strong campaigner for a name change system.





I've had a lot, A Lot, of time to think about this.

The reason for the misspelling is that I originally created the char with the correct spelling in 2004, but the tutorial bugged out and I couldn't progress. So I created this one, then deleted the old one with the correct spelling.

I was a dumb kid, ok?

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Valentine Sukarala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-07-31 17:35:06 UTC
i do think this is a good idea
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#44 - 2013-07-31 23:06:07 UTC
Gamer4liff wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
I'm sorry, but I do find it amusing that someone who gave themselves a name ending in 4Life, (misspelled presumably because the correct spelling was already taken?), is such a strong campaigner for a name change system.





I've had a lot, A Lot, of time to think about this.

The reason for the misspelling is that I originally created the char with the correct spelling in 2004, but the tutorial bugged out and I couldn't progress. So I created this one, then deleted the old one with the correct spelling.

I was a dumb kid, ok?


Perhaps you were thinking of the meaning of liff?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Gamer4liff
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-08-07 21:05:04 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Gamer4liff wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
I'm sorry, but I do find it amusing that someone who gave themselves a name ending in 4Life, (misspelled presumably because the correct spelling was already taken?), is such a strong campaigner for a name change system.





I've had a lot, A Lot, of time to think about this.

The reason for the misspelling is that I originally created the char with the correct spelling in 2004, but the tutorial bugged out and I couldn't progress. So I created this one, then deleted the old one with the correct spelling.

I was a dumb kid, ok?


Perhaps you were thinking of the meaning of liff?


Ha, I wish I had been culturally aware enough to even make that reference at the time.

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Layla Raven
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-08-09 00:03:55 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
I'm sorry, but I do find it amusing that someone who gave themselves a name ending in 4Life, (misspelled presumably because the correct spelling was already taken?), is such a strong campaigner for a name change system.






That "someone" in this case was 14 years old at the time, and is now in his early twenties. I'm almost twice his current age (Lol), but I can tell you, I don't think someone should "suffer the consequences of their actions" for something as simple as a name they picked when they were going through puberty. If someone has been loyal enough of a fan to a game company to keep playing after nearly a decade, allowing them to change their hard-earned character's name to something they like better is a small bone to throw.

I may change a toon name if it is allowed, or I may not. I don't have any names I'm unhappy with, which were picked 6 years ago. But even still, I am very much in favor of this idea. And Jint, just as you don't care if people are offended by your choice to be against name changes, I don't care if you have to overcome a minor inconvenience while mining if it is implemented. Blink
Amarr Priest
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-08-09 23:01:10 UTC
I support this 100% I would love to change the name on this character. My character name sometimes even causes me problems in the game. My name is also the name of a cosmos NPC and normally that would break the Eula but CCP says otherwise.

I bought this character years ago because I knew with a little work I could make it a great pvp toon. Now that I have made the character my own why can't I name it as my own?
cearaen
Plus 10 NV
#48 - 2013-08-17 19:01:56 UTC
I think we could build a bit more game play into it. After all outlaws had different identities and it was always part of the fun to find out who they really were.
For example:
In order to change your name you would need to get a very high standing with a pirate faction and complete a mission. You will need to have a low concord standing (security standing say -5) before you can talk with this agent as otherwise he will think you are a spy for concord.

Finish the mission and you will get something from the agent that will help you change your name. But you won't be able to do it as long as you are an outlaw. You will need to grind your standings back up to positive in order for the paperwork to go through regarding how you are reported in local etc.

Your name will then be changed on your character but there should be ways people can track down who you were. This could include the use of a skill and the use of other agents in the game.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#49 - 2013-08-19 09:49:38 UTC
Amarr Priest wrote:

I bought this character years ago because I knew with a little work I could make it a great pvp toon. Now that I have made the character my own why can't I name it as my own?


If you wanted to name a character as your own, why didn't you create it as your own?

The name was part of what you were buying, so you made your choice.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Jotunspor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-08-20 01:30:46 UTC
Just do it, already.

Lol
Saint Evonivon
Compendium Research Company
#51 - 2013-08-27 21:19:43 UTC
Support!
Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#52 - 2013-08-28 16:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Crasniya
As stated before by many others, the main thing that would need to be implemented here, is your public character sheet would need a list of former identities. As long as the paper trail is visible, it's fine in my book.

But I'd charge for it. If you want to change your name, I think that's a good use for Aurum. And that goes for the fact that a lot of DUSTies have been begging for this ability too. I wouldn't make it a one-time-only deal either. Game is going to exist for decades, yo.

Soraya Xel - Council of Planetary Management 1 - soraya@biomassed.net

Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-08-28 16:28:46 UTC
Gamer4liff Lol

Tea has just snorted out my nose.
But great advert why this would be a good feature.


I would say same costs and rules as character transfer.
Not in corp etc.

Limited to 1 change a year.

Name change would take 1 week to apply so that those who naughty ( exploit ) can be found and petitioned.
No joining a corp during name change timeout.

Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
#54 - 2013-08-29 08:15:28 UTC
+1 Since you create a toon before you know the naming conventions of the game.


Also, if someone howls "droooooooo" at me over TS one more time, I'm going to shoot myself in the face.

Tell me again about how every playstyle you dont engage in "doesn't require any effort" and everyone who does it needs to die in a fire. Be sure to mention about how you tried it once but it was too easy/boring/ethnic-homophobic slur. 

Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2013-08-31 13:39:08 UTC
Crystal Stills wrote:
I know this has been brought up many times but for many of us when we started playing this game we were not serious about the game and gave our characters poor names. We also bought characters with poor names because that's all that is sold on the character bazaar. I for one have characters I would love to be able to rename. The nature of the game and the time it takes to train characters makes it pointless to start new characters for the sake of a name change. For example I have two toons at 65 and 83 million sp you are talking 3 to 4 years to get that back if I remade them.

I propose a one time name change per account not character for a fee along with conditions.

  • Sec status must be at 3 or above.
  • Character has no petitions against them.
  • Account has never been suspended by ccp.

Once a name change has occurred all people with that character on their watch list will receive a eve mail notification of the character changing their name so you can identify who's character that is on your list.

I also want to bring up a point, people always fight this idea cuz they say criminals can erase what they have done. For a second humor me, this would be a one time deal per "account". Now with the character bazaar you can change out characters and erase you actions every week if you wanted too and as we have seen money is now object for many people as seen by the things people do in the game. If you only change a name their actions will still be known due to the eve mail and by their kill and loss stats that will still be attached.

Weigh that in your mind before you fight this proposal.
Character Bazaar = unlimited identity erase
Character Rename = Just a name change



If this is implemented then it should be done as an in-game player provided service run by certified space lawyers.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

Ryan Easte
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-09-03 12:26:36 UTC
I have commented in the past on other threads regarding this and I will do it again on this thread. I fully support this simple request and see no way how it could possibly break the game. It would make MY Eve experience much more enjoyable and there are plenty of options that can be implemented if decided in order to keep things in check.
Leppard
Pepe le Pew Productions
#57 - 2013-09-08 18:15:45 UTC
Why not give people with changed names a little marker in local? Maybe another colour, a little "star" in front or at the end of the name. Perhaps only for the first 4-6 weeks after the change.
Valentine Sukarala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-09-18 16:16:47 UTC
so are we geting any more form this or any one know any thing? Cry
STush T
House of Tuachair
#59 - 2013-10-01 03:47:43 UTC
Its a small trivial thing, and since connecting with your avatar is as important as enjoying the game it would be silly to have to hate your name.
Identity is only in a small part your actual name. There is corp history, bounties, standings, etc.
It should be painful though, so you dont get trolls doing for kicks and giggles. Id assume that 2b combined with a once per character would be a good safeguard.
Omega Flames
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-10-01 14:19:04 UTC
2 bil? that's just stupid expensive. Make it only doable once per year and you've got your safeguard. We've beaten this horse dead already with ways for people to keep up with who has changed their name so there is no need to get ridiculous with the req's