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rockets: the most useless weapon in the game?
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Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-07-18 09:24:18 UTC
Rockets seem to be the worse weapons in the game for pvp.

They have much shorter range than light missiles yet don't do that much better damage and that shorter range will bring you into range of blasters which are so overpowered that they can kill you instantly. So the only use of rockets is on sucide ships that you know are going to die. But no one plays pvp to just lose ships. They play to win and keep their ships.

so am I correct in my logic that rockets are the worst weapons in the game? And if this is true why does everyone keep suggesting them?
David Devant
CTRL-Q
#2 - 2013-07-18 09:35:34 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Things I done said about dem rockits


You are a very wrong person. Rockets are for operation at the edge of scram range were you will hit for perfect damage on a webbed target. Other strengths are that you never need to worry about tracking and the fact that you can select your damage type.

Go get better.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#3 - 2013-07-18 09:37:16 UTC
I have fantastic results in my Vigil against double-damp hookbills, damp condors and the like. How does it work, if they are such a useless weapon system??

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-07-18 09:43:48 UTC
David Devant wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Things I done said about dem rockits
Go get better.


why is that what everyone says

"Get better noob" or "go join EVEuni"

nobody says anything else, they just say your an idiot and should go away. in someways this community is the worse I've been in.

I would try to get better but it takes me half and hour to find 1v1 frigate combat in FW space I die in 5 seconds and then have to spend another half and hour going back to a trade hub, fitting another ship, going out to another system, finding another fight, die in 5 seconds, do it again. The preperation takes up so much of my time that I never get a chance to do learn anything because I die in 10 seconds.
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#5 - 2013-07-18 09:45:11 UTC
I used to think rockets were useless like you, then I took a rocket condor to the plex.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-07-18 09:49:27 UTC
Shadow Adanza wrote:
I used to think rockets were useless like you, then I took a rocket condor to the plex.


let me guess tech 2 weapons with faction ammo?

well guess what I don't have tech 2 weapons and ammo at all and all I do is die die die. Tech 2 should just be removed from the game, it does nothing by penalise newer players.
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-07-18 09:53:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Anja Suorsa
Or maybe you should try training for them instead of throwing a hissy fit when people tell you what they think; It doesn't take long and you may find out what everybody already knows. That Rockets are awesome.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-07-18 09:56:30 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
Or maybe you should try training for them instead of throwing a hissy fit when people tell you what think; It doesn't take long and you may find out what everybody already knows. That Rockets are awesome.


why should I waste my time on them, they take 4 days and are only worth it on frigates, atleast light missiles can be used on cruisers as well with assault launchers.
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-07-18 09:59:11 UTC
If you don't plan on using frigates, what was the point in this thread?
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#10 - 2013-07-18 10:01:01 UTC
If you can't be bothered to learn how to fly properly and you can't be bothered to train T2 weapon systems you'll find pretty much every weapon in the game is "the worse". ^_^
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-07-18 10:01:23 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
If you don't plan on using frigates, what was the point in this thread?


I want to be economical with my skills points, but given how crap frigates seem to be a pvp I might give up on them and go to crusiers. As I've always suspected they are the only ships worth a damn in pvp.
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#12 - 2013-07-18 10:04:00 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
If you don't plan on using frigates, what was the point in this thread?


I want to be economical with my skills points, but given how crap frigates seem to be a pvp I might give up on them and go to crusiers. As I've always suspected they are the only ships worth a damn in pvp.

You must not pvp much.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#13 - 2013-07-18 10:05:32 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
If you don't plan on using frigates, what was the point in this thread?


I want to be economical with my skills points, but given how crap frigates seem to be a pvp I might give up on them and go to crusiers. As I've always suspected they are the only ships worth a damn in pvp.


only worthless thing is you. We do not need your opinion about rockets, we know those are fine weapon systems on right hands.
David Devant
CTRL-Q
#14 - 2013-07-18 10:06:28 UTC
Actually I gave you some advice if you look for it in between my caustic wit and searing put downs. Let me use bullet points:

1) Rockets hit at 8-10k
2) Blasters hit at 1-5k
3) Orbit outside of 5k
4) Win

It will take you a very very long time to work out the rules of this game because there are a great many of them. Asking on forums is a good way to learn. But don't expect people to be nice. This is eve.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-07-18 10:21:51 UTC
Shadow Adanza wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
If you don't plan on using frigates, what was the point in this thread?


I want to be economical with my skills points, but given how crap frigates seem to be a pvp I might give up on them and go to crusiers. As I've always suspected they are the only ships worth a damn in pvp.

You must not pvp much.


http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1675337

does this count as a lot? look at the losses and say if I'm good or not.
FuzzyButt
The Lazy Crabs
#16 - 2013-07-18 10:28:26 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Shadow Adanza wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
If you don't plan on using frigates, what was the point in this thread?


I want to be economical with my skills points, but given how crap frigates seem to be a pvp I might give up on them and go to crusiers. As I've always suspected they are the only ships worth a damn in pvp.

You must not pvp much.


http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1675337

does this count as a lot? look at the losses and say if I'm good or not.



I don't think rockets is your issue here.

Rockets is an amazing weapons system once you've trained for it. Rocket hawk, Rocket Vengance, Rocket Hookbill

But you must realize that they'll need some training and correct fittings just like any other ship before its useful =)

also using all the fitting slots on a ship etc.

You should also avoid Tama =)
Denuo Secus
#17 - 2013-07-18 10:28:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Denuo Secus
Paul Otichoda wrote:

why is that what everyone says

"Get better noob" or "go join EVEuni"

nobody says anything else, they just say your an idiot and should go away. in someways this community is the worse I've been in.


You sound quite negative in your post as well. All you do is moaning. So don't ne surprised if ppl react accordingly.


Paul Otichoda wrote:
I would try to get better but it takes me half and hour to find 1v1 frigate combat in FW space I die in 5 seconds and then have to spend another half and hour going back to a trade hub, fitting another ship, going out to another system, finding another fight, die in 5 seconds, do it again. The preperation takes up so much of my time that I never get a chance to do learn anything because I die in 10 seconds.


Some thoughts:

- 1-v-1 PvP isn't the norm. People want to fly in groups because it's social and fun. So prepare for 1-v-some. There are several tactics to avoid getting blobbed. Learn them. It's not about rockets or modules...it's about judgement of situations and fooling your opponents into a situation you want.....or just fly with some mates as well.

- Buy a bunch of ships + fitting + ammo you want to use at once. Use courier contracts. Store it all on a station in your PvP area. Don't fit the ships beforehand, just to be able to adjust your fittings based on your combat experiences.

- Rockets do less DPS on paper but are much more robust and reliable. If you want peak damage, use blasters. But if you want some flexibility against ewar, neuts, kiting...rockets are fine.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-07-18 10:40:05 UTC
Denuo Secus wrote:

- Rockets do less DPS on paper but are much more robust and reliable. If you want peak damage, use blasters. But if you want some flexibility against ewar, neuts, kiting...rockets are fine.


I've train for missiles only so turrets are out of the question.
FuzzyButt
The Lazy Crabs
#19 - 2013-07-18 10:43:52 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Denuo Secus wrote:

- Rockets do less DPS on paper but are much more robust and reliable. If you want peak damage, use blasters. But if you want some flexibility against ewar, neuts, kiting...rockets are fine.


I've train for missiles only so turrets are out of the question.



Cross training =P

doesn't take long

if you don't enjoy missiles you should probably start training guns now =D
David Devant
CTRL-Q
#20 - 2013-07-18 10:45:08 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Denuo Secus wrote:

- Rockets do less DPS on paper but are much more robust and reliable. If you want peak damage, use blasters. But if you want some flexibility against ewar, neuts, kiting...rockets are fine.


I've train for missiles only so turrets are out of the question.


You are a gaping void of negativity. I hope you play eve for another 10 years without a single kill.
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