EVE General Discussion

Smartbomb camp, RSB'd HIC in combo with a decloaker, bouncing drones from a 17km orbit...I'm sure there are more options I'm missing.

But I mean, why should you have to put :effort: into catching something that doesn't want to be caught?

Next you should complain about covops cloaks being unfair, and how warp-to-zero should be removed. Actually, that last part would be pretty fun to see again...

Just to reiterate in case you didn't 'get it': Here we have a ship built for a sole purpose (running a gatecamp) and you somehow see it as ridiculous that you should build a setup for the sole purpose of catching said ship? Time to lose the silver spoon out of your mouth.

In Low Security space, having to watch capital ships (!!!) getting through gates unharmed is plain broken.
Not only is the player using the MWD mechanic to get into warp faster, but he couples it with a cloak, and thus won't be caught really.

If it's all about "clever use of mechanics", then why in heaven's name aren't people who set-up a camp allowed to drop drones, cans or whatnot. And don't start with "LAG", that's just absurd!

While 0.0 relies on bubbles to catch people when a camp is set-up, low-sec players must resort to much more ingenuous and clever tactics and set-ups in order to catch almost all of their prey. They get a negative security status, HAVE TO spend on additional toons in order to resupply due to not being able to go hisec, and they rely on catching their prey in order to make a living (pillage ships or ransom).

For the most part there is no more Risk vs. Reward. Full rack of stabs, cloak + MWD, you do the math.

There are a lot of double standards here, on which game mechanics are allowed to be used outside of the primary intended use, and play with them like in a sand-box, and which aren't because, oh-noes, you could kill players, god forbid.

Dropping items, cans, drones, whatnot... all will earn you a warning from CCP, with a following ban if ignored.
The "fast decloaking ship" is such a cute idea, if it weren't for the fact that it can't tackle and only decloak.
That would work very fine if it could takle as well, as its high scan rez would allow it to instantly get that ship. For the 0.0 F1 pro-players that might work. But in the land of gateguns, there needs to be a secondary ship doing the tackle, after the target got decloaked.
There is so much lost time involved, and with the additional stabs fitted, that you might get 1/50 ships that do it, only to see it warp, and get 1/150 ships because he forgot the additional stabs.

Again, there is no risk vs. reward here for these people, and there is a completely penalty to people who try to come up with ideas to counter those mechanics.

My 2c...

Came into thread thinking of frag warping as a new feature where you don't bump someone you warp inside of, but explode him.

Leaving disappointed.

If it's all about "clever use of mechanics", then why in heaven's name aren't people who set-up a camp allowed to drop drones, cans or whatnot. And don't start with "LAG", that's just absurd!

Posts made before some of you started Trolling on these forums, the earliest mention being in Feb 2008.

The Orca mentioned in the OP evaded a solo corp m8 of mine in a T3, who had no propulsion, but a high scan res.