EVE General Discussion

Nah. Sci-Fi is fantasy based on social and natural science rather than myth and legend.

…but rather something spectacular like this. Of course, EVE doesn't use any Hubble false-colour images to begin with.

Classic example of Tippia, again, not understanding what she's talking about.

Any two-bit amateur astronomer can see the backdrop images in EvE are indeed inspired by the Hubble false-color images. Can see the M16 Eagle nebula; can see the Hydra nebula; can see the Omega nebula.

How do you know? Because the colors used by NASA doesn't represent the colors as they're even seen. It's like a trademark even.

In the early days of astrophotography photo filters did have a color to them (Hydrogen-Alpha and it's deep red tone is a classic example, as the red spectrum the human eye can actually see -- why you can see the reddish tone of Omega and Eagle nebulas with the naked eye [but not the Oxygen III blue/green that NASA used]). Oxygen III highlights a gray bandwidth to human eyes -- we don't see the pretty blues that NASA normally uses to represent that color in their Hubble photographs.

But in EvE you will see those pretty blue Oxygen III highlights, just like in the Hubble photographs! That color doesn't exist in reality, it's Photoshopped in.

Exactly! It's nice to see a veterinarian supporting my modest proposal. Obviously Buck Rogers is too old fashioned for the likes of Eve, I dont think we want those 70s fashions and all that space disco stuff, but they had space princesses I think.

By the way, I was researching Wow and I realised they already had spaceships in it with the race with the goatlegs and horns. So there is a percodent for a space-fantasy combo.

Tippia, I've been an amateur astronomer for decades now, and before CCD astrophotography (the bad old days of gas-hyping film).

Space does not have it's own "colours" (hmmm) beyond what the human eye can see (and since the universe as we define it is by a human perspective, the universe will be seen from a human POV).

The hocus pocus of the base color of the universe was for show, we couldn't even see it naturally that way.

Any other color representation is false-colored because humans can't tell the difference -- and photo filters are even needed to tease out the details (why the Hubble images used false colors anyway). Oxygen III is a classic filter to do just that, especially in nebulas with a lot of dust and radiation (like the M16 pillars, it would be washed out by the background radiation otherwise). It's no different than in Photoshop, when doing color separation in CYMK / RGB or LAB formats. Astrophotography filters operate much the same, and when each bandwidth is separated it can be given it's own color. Then, like in Photoshop, the color separated images are recombined into a false-color representation.

It looks very pretty. But it's not real. It's false-color.

Naturally, celestials in space is mostly seen by humans as gray, with some white light highlights (Orion nebula is a classic example of a nebulae that can be seen and appreciated without any photo filters). Nebulas like the classic Hubble Eagle nebula is seen in red light by the eye naturally, and it's contrast is brought out nicely by the hydrogen-alpha color filter (and why the M16 photos before Hubble was soooo red!). There's no blue/green there (typical false-color for Oxygen III in NASA Hubble photos).

Enjoy the fantasy and what fantasy offers, as science is harsher than space itself!

I dunno care if you count Sci-fi into Fantasy, hell i dont even care if fantasy or realistic, i just want to fly in space with spacecraft and future technology.

I cant stand anymore Orcs, and Magic and Steampunk ****, like Wow.

i have to admit flambeing you wouldnt be sufficient. so how about tar and feathers instead

Eve crossed with WoW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGDpUg3CHY&feature=player_detailpage#t=24s

But isn't everything we see just a product if different wavelengths of light hitting our cones and rods etc?

In pitch darkness, every cat is black and all that. Without light, nothing has a colour. If you wear a pair of commando night vision goggles, you're not going 'ooh, things aren't really green, Imm not having this!', are you?

And when we look at our monitors, we're obviously not seeing through our avatars eyes, unless my character is being dragged behind his ship on a giant elastic band. The only in game rationale I can find for me being able to view the ship I'm inside from a distance of 100km away is that I'm viewing it via a feed from a camera probe orbiting my ship, controlled from my cockpit. And that feed is altered by computers to make it easier for us to perform our space duties. We need to be able to differentiate stuff in order to act on it successfully. The hud gives me a targeting reticule, and likewise it colours space stuff to aid my interaction with it.

You've missed the point with your talk about 'space is not colourful'.

As for the OP: no thanks. Wow is terrible.

In this case -- the aqua blues that look so pretty in that M16 Hubble photo -- was added for effect only.

Oxygen III filter (which that aqua color represented) isn't even a color...it's a contrast filter.

So, seeing it in EvE, with the same nebulosity features, is a Hubble false-color representation of the universe.

Doesn't exist at all in science fact.

<-- Can't figure out why anyone is even seriously discussing said troll's post, let alone getting bent over space colors.

Grats tho, on getting useless trivia/board warrior to V.

............wanders off to blow up more internet spaceships