Player Features and Ideas Discussion

(These ideas are not about changing SOV or alliance limits please stay calm)

Both of these ideas is not new as I’ve heard different arguments for them a few times but both are somewhat related. Both ideas are separate but can be used in conjunction for some interesting play.


Number one

Remove all information regarding nullsec from the game that is not player generated. It’s supposed to be uncharted space but all movement and kills can be spotted from a few charts (dotlan, ingame eve map). This means that anyone can see exactly what is going on in an area of space that is supposed to be devoid of knowledge.

This means that if a few people have moved into an area they can be spotted almost straight away by information that should not exist. Let nullsec information only be available from the player base not be an automatic in game feature.

If this information was not available then people could go see what an area was like. Just for ratting or ninja mining or anything that requires secrecy. Even mining creates ripples as rats still need to die.

At present all it does is allow large alliances to be lazy and check a few charts instead of actually taking a look at who is around. And if the person/people are not online then they see nothing. And the people there can carry on in secret.

This change favours smaller corps or loners who want to have some chance in visiting nullsec without being spotted straight away.

Number two

Allow people to turn off Kill mails (which affects both parties) and have them on a huge timer so that if you turn it off you cannot turn it on again for a month and only give the corporation CEO or alliance CEO that ability. They are the bane of this game. I’ve heard of plenty of occasions where people will not undock, or fight anything but one sided fights because their obsession with their kill boards

I hardly ever use mine at all (a few times or on other peoples) as I don’t want people seeing what ships I use. Otherwise they can be used as a counter. When im in a war the first thing I do is go to the kill boards to see exactly who im fighting and what ships they fly.

Result

If you combine these two you could potentially create dead zones in nullsec where no information is coming out and anything that goes in never comes back. And there is only sketchy information about what’s in there coming from people who either made it out alive or had a few seconds before their pod exploded.

You may need a huge fleet to go in there and find out exactly what has happened only to find that the area is suddenly deserted as the occupiers could not defend it and left.


Or a SOV system is suddenly lost and everything in it destroyed and there are hardly any details of what happened.


This would make for a much more exciting game and CCP could use it to further their contents driven advertisement of the game.


Third point added as an afterthought.


Removing local would also add to the mystic and it would be more realistic. If you want to chart out a system then you can do it manually. I know that people are devided on this point but the best compromise I can think of is that you can buy a cloak field that removes all ships from local.

It would create an entirely new profession and that is the intelligence gatherer who maps out systems with POS’s resources and rough exstimates of players. If you can find people who can do it well then they would be hugely sort after people especially if they could keep their secrets. Although they would only be known to a few people as they have to keep their cover intact


Your views are welcome and a huge shout out to all the trolls

You could have saved yourself a bunch of time typing all that up. Your ideas are horrible and you should feel bad about making people read them.

first point

null is not devoid of knowledge, it's devoid of civilization, law and order.
what you describe is a WH, and we already got those

2nd point

stop crying about killmails, if someone wants to play the game according to the dictates of their efficiency rating that's their bag, who cares, if there wasn't killmails people would gank you for the chat logs with your precious tears.
killmails are not the problem

3rd point

while ignorance may truly be bliss, its hardly a decent game mechanic in a multiplayer environment.

unless of course you play multiplayer games as a lone wolf or bot

so yes, your post IS bad and you should feel bad for making it

apparently knowing is much worse than not knowing

- Double post -

You can gather intel in a covops far more effectively without seeing or being seen in local than you can with it.

With local, you can gather who's there. Without it, you can gather not only who's there, but what their operational patterns are. Look at wormhole intel for example. Believe me, this is no afk cloaky whine. The last thing I want is to see cloaks nerfed in any way. They're too critical to wormhole operations.

Again a member of a large nullsec alliance. and the goons at that. and known goon alts.


You want more people in nullsec but you want them on your own terms or not at all. and you all moan and whine about getting more people in nullsec

Then why dont you explain why it is counter productive from your standpoint of an already existing mega alliance and please dont go on about bots. Its the first two items that are the most important and allow people to get a taste without a 4000 man alliance turning up 2 hours after they have arrived

You want to know why your ideas are bad? Here's why: They make life in nullsec more difficult while adding no extra incentive to move there. The primary reason people will not move to nullsec/lowsec/WH space is because they want the protection of concord and are not willing to assume the inherent risk already present in these places. Your ideas do nothing to address this issue. As for whether I want more people in nullsec, I couldnt personally care less. Please, by all means, stay in empire scraping for meager earnings from repetitive lvl 4s and mining.

If you like delayed local, go to a wormhole.