Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Of course it won't be specifically for one man corps. The fix would be for any and all player corporations, no exceptions. If you get wardecced, you are stuck in it till the war ends. One man corp owners always say they are good at PVP and the fix of this exploit would force them to prove it.

As for your second reply, I agree. It would encourage miner corps to either alliance up with PVP players or learn it themselves so they can pop your catalysts. You would finally get the high sec you wanted. Still reasonably safe for pilots but with that danger that means that AFK'ers die quickly

OK we don't disagree then, but you might want to change the thread title, if you can.

AFAIK NPC corps are exempt from AWOXing. I doubt anyone would be in one if they weren't. I would welcome allowing NPC corp members to freely gank each other.

cool, i'll do it RIGHT AWAY yeah angels (do they have SRP with machariel doctrine?)

Some of this needs a translation as Capt Lynch doesn't really speak english.

Black Legion training corp= Black legion member multiboxing/ice mining in high sec.
Black Legion war deccing= this guys alt corp war deccing James whilst the entire rest of Black Legion fell over laughing at the guy making an idiot over himself.
50 million isk= 2 ships missing an ice cycle.

So basically a guy missed 2 mining cycles, has temper tantrum, wardecs without any research and then gets laughed at.
I am sure however the mightly Black Legion appreciate the white knighting here though :).

Just to clarify - this is not an exploit. In fact, CCP have, on several occasions, said that dropping a corporation at any time is pretty much working at as intended. The fact that it happens to be done at an inconvenient time for you (or anyone else) does not trump the player's right to leave a corp they no longer wish to be a part of.

Also, and I don't know how many times I have said this over the years, you CANNOT force people to PvP. You can inflict PvP on them, but you can't force them to reciprocate. Even if you force them to stay locked into a corporation, you can't force them to actually participate in a war - jump clones are an amazing thing, as are alts.

You do have options open to you: gank them. Bump them back. Infiltrate spies into the corporations, find out where they will be operating on a given day/week, and don't be there. Find out who's supplying them and interrupt THEIR training/logistics operations. Declaring war is actually the least creative way of solving the problem.

The funny thing is, James 315 started bumping from an NPC corp. But carebears said he was hiding in the NPC corp and was too afraid of their mighty wardec's to join a player corp. So he did, because unlike almost the rest of hisec, he actually knows the game mechanics. Since then it has been one huge outpouring of glorious tears when carebears find their own weapons used against them. I consider this thread a part of that continuous deluge of salty goodness.

Fix wardecs by all means. Its easy peasy. Anyone in the corp on either side of the wardec carries the war with them for the remaining duration of the war regardless of them dropping corp or not. The New Order would fully support that change. As I'm sure Whores in Space, The Marmite Collective, Somali Bootcamp, Shoulda Checked Local, etc... would.

As CEO of The NODD & member of the CODE. Alliance I fully support this thread. I'll reframe from friendly banter at this time.

Making it that the wardec following the character for 7 days is the best idea imo.


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and cry less about being bumped. If I or any of my guys would have been there you would have got ganked.

It should always be dangerous to undock, but CCP doesn't want to drive carebears from the game, nor should they. You can't force people to fight, even in a PvP first game like this, and constant, inescapable war decs are just going to make people quit the game. Easy for the wolves to say "good!", but it's not us losing money when carebears quit. CCP is a business first, and not many pure FFA PVP MMOs are successful.

My suggestion would be first 30 days stays as is and you are in whatever NPC corp you would normally be in as a nooby that has war dec/AWOX protection.

After 30 days (if you don't voluntarily leave sooner), you are dumped into a secondary faction based (but not faction warfare) NPC corp that can we wardecced. These would be the same corps people dropping from player corps would go into. Of course, such a corp would probably be big enough that only rich corps/alliances could afford a war dec, and that would be really bad news to people who don't want to PvP. I guess if you don't want to be in a wardecced NPC corp you could pay the 1.6M ISK and make a player corp to escape the war dec on the NPC corp or join an active player corp. You do have 1.6M ISK to spare after playing for 30 days, don't you?

I doubt CCP would *ever* let NPC corp members freely attack each other, even with a sec status hit/auto transfer out to a pirate NPC corp once your sec status is too low. I can only imagine how badly that would be abused.

TBH I'd be happy with just having a war dec follow any member that leaves a corp under war dec for 7 days.

Who are you anyways? I have a miner character who I mine with semi-AFK, and I've never seen you, or anyone else. I've never had a suicide gank against me. You all seem rather impotent to me, incapable of policing most of highsec...

And no, my miner doesn't mine in the same area as this character. I want to see if you'll actually step up and work on policing highsec properly. So please, come and find my miner.