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Couple questions about Wars
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Xarxii
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-07-15 17:12:19 UTC
First: Does a character remain attack-able by war targets after they leave a corp, or are they immediately immune to attack if they had no aggression timer when leaving?

Second: When it comes to remote assistance, I am curious what happens if someone remote reps a war target if they aren't involved in the war. I understand that it allows the other parties to attack the person who is using the remote assistance moduals, but does it engage the 60 second dock/jump timer?

Thanks for the assistance.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-07-15 17:18:29 UTC
the war dec drops off of you as soon as you leave the corp

remote repping someone with a limited engagement timer (i.e. shooting a wartarget) gets you a suspect timer. remote repping someone always gives you their timers (except LE) so if they had a weapons timer you get it as well
Xarxii
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-07-15 17:21:06 UTC
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
the war dec drops off of you as soon as you leave the corp

remote repping someone with a limited engagement timer (i.e. shooting a wartarget) gets you a suspect timer. remote repping someone always gives you their timers (except LE) so if they had a weapons timer you get it as well


So remote repping someone prevents you from docking if they can't dock?
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-07-15 17:26:09 UTC
yes
Kimo Khan
Rage Against All Reds
GunFam
#5 - 2013-07-15 17:28:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Kimo Khan
Xarxii wrote:
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
the war dec drops off of you as soon as you leave the corp

remote repping someone with a limited engagement timer (i.e. shooting a wartarget) gets you a suspect timer. remote repping someone always gives you their timers (except LE) so if they had a weapons timer you get it as well


So remote repping someone prevents you from docking if they can't dock?



No, remote repping prevents them from docking with a timer. If you deagress for the full minute you may dock while they may not since they are still "agressing" by remote repping.

When they mean gives you their timers they mean. The remote repper gets the timers of the person they are repping, not the person being attacked.

EDIT: Note: we might both be saying the same thing from different perspectives.
Xarxii
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-07-15 18:02:49 UTC
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
yes



Thanks for the swift answer. You have saved many tears (and caused many to our enemies) this day.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-07-15 18:09:55 UTC
To clarify, if we have 3 people, A B and C, with A and B shooting at each other, and C repping B, A's flags do not matter. C inherits B's flags as long as the repping continues. So if I rep someone who's shooting (and thus has a weapons timer) I gain the weapons timer as well and can't use gates or dock. If they deaggress, both of our weapons timers will tick down even if I continue repping and we will be able to dock and use gates at the same time.

Here's CCP's giant chart http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63443/1/logo2_actions2flags.png
Xarxii
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-07-15 18:17:08 UTC
That chart is extremely helpful, thanks.
Kimo Khan
Rage Against All Reds
GunFam
#9 - 2013-07-15 20:29:39 UTC
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
To clarify, if we have 3 people, A B and C, with A and B shooting at each other, and C repping B, A's flags do not matter. C inherits B's flags as long as the repping continues. So if I rep someone who's shooting (and thus has a weapons timer) I gain the weapons timer as well and can't use gates or dock. If they deaggress, both of our weapons timers will tick down even if I continue repping and we will be able to dock and use gates at the same time.

Here's CCP's giant chart http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63443/1/logo2_actions2flags.png


That is what I was trying to say but obviously did not do nearly as good of a job at is as Elizabeth did.
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-07-16 00:51:51 UTC
Xarxii wrote:
First: Does a character remain attack-able by war targets after they leave a corp, or are they immediately immune to attack if they had no aggression timer when leaving?.


No you will be freely attackable until the war is invalidated, so there is no point dropping the corp.

Xarxii wrote:


Second: When it comes to remote assistance, I am curious what happens if someone remote reps a war target if they aren't involved in the war. I understand that it allows the other parties to attack the person who is using the remote assistance moduals, but does it engage the 60 second dock/jump timer?

Thanks for the assistance.


No this also is not the case, so feel free to assist all people engaging with remote reps.

Your welcome for this assistance, no thanks needed

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