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Is there a way to hide my killmail?
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Tsung Boon
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-07-14 14:46:55 UTC
I just made a really noob mistake and got killed by rats in a nice ship as i didnt realise they could warp scramble me.
Would rather my friends didnt find out.
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-07-14 14:58:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Ovv Topik
Don't worry they wont find out.

Oh! Just as long as you absolutely dont go on the forums and draw attention to it that is of course.

As long as you dont do that you'll be fine!

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Tsung Boon
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-07-14 15:02:06 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:
Don't worry they wont find out.

Just as long as you absolutely dont go on the forums and draw attention to it that is of course.

As long as you dont do that you'll be fine!


But i'm in a corp (this is my alt used to store money) and my CEO always seems to know when sombody is killed.
Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2013-07-14 15:07:07 UTC
There are three ways a killmail can end up on the internet.

1. You manually post it to a killboard.

2. You or your corp has an automatic feed linked to a killboard.

3. If there are other players on the KM, they manually post it or have an automatic feed.

It sounds like this was just an NPC mistake, so #3 can be disregarded. #1 sounds unlikely given the situation, but #2 is a very real likelihood - a CEO sees all killmails produced by members of his corp, and can either choose to manually post them or set up an automatic feed linked to a given killboard.

tl;dr - hope your CEO doesn't notice, or hasn't set up an autofeed.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-07-14 15:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
If you were killed by rats (as in NPCs) you're probably safe. A KM with only NPCs can't be posted to kill boards afaik.

Now, if another player was involved, that's a whole nother matter.
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-07-14 15:43:18 UTC
i think hes afraid of people in his corp finding out about the loss. the ceo and any directors can see the killmail if they bother checking them so if they see it then yes people in the corp will know and there is nothing he can do.

i never look at losses to rats as a huge deal, yes they are embarasing but they dont show up on public record as explained by others here so you only have to deal with some teasing from corpmates.
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-07-14 15:50:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Builder
Elena Thiesant wrote:
If you were killed by rats (as in NPCs) you're probably safe. A KM with only NPCs can't be posted to kill boards afaik.
Ehem... everybody here (Edit: but Zanzbar, who posted while I was typing) seems to have forgotten about in-game killmails.

Every member of your corp can see every kill-mail generated by corp-members. They are all in the "Corp->Wars->Kills" tab, including PvE losses. There is nothing you can do to prevent that. However, if this thread is any indication, most players seem to have forgotten about that and only look at the online kill-boards, which don't post PvE losses.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#8 - 2013-07-14 16:18:21 UTC
CEOs and Directors in corporations can see all of the kills and losses the members of their members take regardless of whether or not NPCs were involves. There's no way you can prevent your CEO from finding out.

Also post with a proper character already.
Seaon Lucky
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-07-14 16:22:13 UTC
Lol that has happened to me years ago when I played Eve.

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Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-07-14 17:11:14 UTC
BTW, why did Zanzbar & Vimsy specify "Directors" ? I am pretty sure that any corp member can see the corporate kill board.
(At least that's the case both in NPC corps and in the player corp my main is in.)
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-07-14 17:40:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Zanzbar
we specified directors and ceo as they have traditionaly been the only ones who can see all corp mails. however this has changed with this years updates to the ways wars are handeled so forgive use if any info is slightly outdated.
Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#12 - 2013-07-14 19:01:20 UTC
A loss of a nice ship to NPCs? Don't worry, someone will find it...

Example: http://throughnewbeyes.com/2013/02/26/npc-losses-week-1-the-scope/

"So CCP recently let all members of a corp view all the corp’s kills/losses. Before Retribution, you needed to be a Director. As a result of this, a character in an NPC corp can now view their kills and losses.

Including losses to NPCs, which normally don’t appear on killboards (they’re not API fed)

So welcome to the first week of NPC losses! I’m using my alt to show some rather choice lossmails. First off, some losses in The Scope from the last 2-3 days.

Feast your eyes on some of these. I’ve picked a mix of bad fits and expensive losses!"

Big smile

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. …"
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#13 - 2013-07-14 19:16:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Radius Prime
Don't hide stuff from your corpmates... If you don't have trust what do you have? It starts with hiding, goes on to lying and ends in drama among friends or corp theft. Be honest about what happened. If they laugh at you or make fun of you that corp is NOT worth your time and dedication and you should leave it. If they show understanding and respect on the other hand it will strengthen your bond further.

Make this a test for you, them and the corp. Draw conclusions afterwards.

Radius

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
Jimmy Morane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-07-14 19:54:17 UTC
Tsung Boon wrote:
I just made a really noob mistake and got killed by rats in a nice ship as i didnt realise they could warp scramble me.
Would rather my friends didnt find out.


What level mission were you flying?
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#15 - 2013-07-15 14:18:34 UTC
Ask yourself the question why would you hide an NPC kill from those that are supposed to support you? Blink
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-07-15 15:19:32 UTC
Guys, everyone in the corp can see the kill, corp api wont post it to a KB, as npc kills dont automatically gets pulled, but you can still manually post NPC kills onto a killboard given you have the killmail available, something everyone in his corp has.
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-07-15 15:31:29 UTC
Assume they'll find out whatever you do, and act accordingly. Any losses you suffer become part of the corp's record, even if they don't get automatically posted to out-of-client killboards.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Tsung Boon
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-07-15 16:47:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsung Boon
Jimmy Morane wrote:
Tsung Boon wrote:
I just made a really noob mistake and got killed by rats in a nice ship as i didnt realise they could warp scramble me.
Would rather my friends didnt find out.


What level mission were you flying?


Lvl 4's in a legion, got blob webbed/warp scrammed and couldnt hit the frigs in time.
Was pretty ugly.
To make things worse I didnt eject in time :(
Tsung Boon
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-07-15 16:52:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsung Boon
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Ask yourself the question why would you hide an NPC kill from those that are supposed to support you? Blink

A few reasons actually.
First being embarrassment I lost a 6/700m ship
Second being we are a null sec corp that has some prime anom/farmed real estate, and I decided to grind lvl 4's for some LP's.
In short I lost a tech 3 faction fit cruiser to rats making not much more money that I would soloing anoms in my oracle.
Vincenzo Arbosa
Locust Assets
#20 - 2013-07-15 17:02:51 UTC
I don't see how being involved in a corporation that is so damn serious that you are worried about things like this can be any fun at all. Tell the CEO to eat a bag of penile shaped things if they have a problem. You lost your own ship, didnt you?
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."