EVE General Discussion

What's DUST?

And how was CCP going to pay for it, when 500k players play it's flagship, and a good chunk of them for "free"?

CCP isn't on the stock exchange either.

They have to get funds, and Sony wanted an exclusive. If they just said no, no funds. And they'll be but a one trick pony, with all the problems we're seeing with PC only games -- not enough new players are playing on PCs. If 1 in 10 only stays to play, the game won't survive as there's fewer and fewer to replace vets that leave. Volume only comes if the publishers tap into all the markets.

It's a method for Sony to get it's Playstation only content and CCP funds.

Now incorporating it into EvE, the logistics is a nightmare. Stand alone, much easier (EvE was never designed for consoles in mind. In 2000 [when EvE was being built] consoles were but toys). The engine is old. To make DUST work with EvE, is like WoW working with Titan. Unless EvE is rewritten as EvE 2.0 it won't work. Can't even get POS code fixed because it'll break the game, and that just with EvE.

DUST + EvE = DUST + EvE 2.0.

Yeah because console cheats like aimbots and wallhacks can't be found on the internet right?

The thing to remember about any good shooter on the computer is the ability to host dedicated servers and be your own admin. I've been playing FPS games on PC since 2003 and I've only ever seen ONE aimbot, and the player was banned from the server in less than four seconds.

You're seriously overplaying the aimbot situation for the PC and you're also confusing bad games for FPS with bots. IF it doesn't have a dedicated server list it is a garbage game.

End of story.


That's why Dust should just be abandoned instead of brought to the PC. They need to overhaul and work on EVE...There are a lot more things they can add to the game that the players would enjoy.

Simple: by having 500k paid-for subscribers that each means ~$15 a month in income, and by having investors chip in large wads of cash to pay for development costs.

We don't know if CCP has any kind of exclusivity deal with Sony. Releasing on one platform is not the same thing.

How were you spotting them? Because you would have to be actively admining 24/7 (I had a BF3 server for months myself) and viewing the streams and snapshots to verify never seeing more than ONE aimbot. Besides the Punkbuster notices will show on the coms when multihacks and aimbots are detected (almost 2 for every match) anyway.

And that's with any Punkbuster enabled server. GCC/Stream as well.

To catch them takes work, and using all the tools, especially streaming (which doesn't catch glitchers or some of the paid hacks).

When BF3 opened there was so many hacks, it was knee deep. You could tell when the match starts a player is killing 100 players (kills so fast it was watching the score go up by the 10s) before getting out of the starting area IT WAS HACKED. I banned those players on sight, as no excuse they made could even possibly make up for killing that many, that soon, and not even in range to kill anyone.

FPS games truly have a problem with that, and as long as they maintain public scoreboards to ePeen for, it'll remain.

I like it how people still think there are any 'free' accounts....

An account can only be financed by either cash $ or plex.....guess what? Someone paid cash $ for those plex that fund your 'free' accounts dumbasses.

CCP wins again. Every active account has money put into it (might not be yours but 'someone' paid for it).

No point posting anything on the Dust forums as the Devs have seem to forgotten it exists.

Unlike everyone else here, im nota programmer, software developer or network manager. But i would like to meet the person who thought they could make an fps financially viable for more than a year even if it was the best fps at the time of release.

Expecting dust to last even that long is frankly embarrassing.

Hell yeah I'm waiting for Destiny!!