Crime & Punishment

Such a thing as Piracy doesn't exist in EVE hardly anymore. Most just shoot anything and everything. Few ask for ransoms any more. Those that do may not honor them. And in no way would I consider gankers pirates or the order. Actual piracy in EVE is almost no existent.

It's easy... do they live in low sec?

Some in high sec think they are pirates however they are nothing more than common criminals.

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I was a pirate. I'd kill for loot to sell, ransom what I could for isk (i'd certainly honour those ransoms as it make them more likely to pay if I did it again.) I'd invade missions, anomalies, cosmic sigs for ransoms/killing/looting etc.

Being a pirate to me was about making isk. This however often conflicted with my 'warrior code' where I was looking for a good challenging fight.

I think most low sec pvp'rs that label themselves 'pirate' are just that. PVP'er that give themselve a label.

First of all I'd like to point out that honoring ransoms is far from a dead art, and no not all low-sec dwellers are simply there to fight and shoot the other outlaws that exist there. Pirates, IMO are simply those who find ways to extort ISK/Assets from other pilots by force/coercion. I would not consider scammers to be pirates even though they have a very similar m.o. but I would agree that there are "pirates" operating in high-sec as well as in low-sec, they just fill different niche roles.

Suicide gankers are just as much pirates as the guy who gate camps waiting for haulers/other shinies to pass through. A pirate is not necessarily in it for a challenging fight, but for making a quick buck, which isn't to say many pirates don't like good fights now and again too.

Our alliance is a good base for piracy =3

Camps - Good isk printing machine
Ganking - Decent isk and fun
Fleets - killing some good fleets
Solo - filling the space of fun

everything goes under the piracy part. and Ransoming still exist, thing is people don't wanna risk it anymore. i often ask ransoms when i get pods and i do honor them. just that people don't trust any Pirate anymore... Understandable =)

We have a very dedicated ganker in our alliance which we're all proud of Mr. Loyalanon making people in high sec shake =D

Doing fleet in low sec would also go under piracy, cause your still outlaws killing anything in your path.

The true piracy i remember from some years back tho, was really fun. where you'd still find people in belts around and a lot of solo PvP ( now i wasn't there 5-6 years ago maybe that was even better? )

Suiciding things in high-sec can make you a decent amount of isk; but if you fly in lowsec itty mk V's are few and far between. Ransoms can give you some isk but most people nowadays don't accept the offer of a ransom and a lot of criminal-types prefer to get a killmail to a ship (unless it's something shiny).

Generally true, though pirates have held ports hostage from time to time (See: Blackbeard) or even organized large overland expeditions to sack unsuspecting cities (See: Henry Morgan)

That's not piracy, that's vandalism. In which act, pirates do engage - but that's entertainment, not piracy.

Many pirates did whatever they could, as they could, as the urge struck them - Trade, fish, buccaneer (hunting cattle and pigs on abandonded islands for food), rob, plunder, pirate, or just lie aroudn getting drunk.

A classic case would be the Vikings of old - If they thought they could take a ship or sack a villiage, they did. If their opponent looked too strong, they pulled up and did some old-fashioned merchant trading. If during the trade they found an opening, they'd switch back to the ol' smash-n-grab. Vikings were more sea-born raiders than pirates proper, true, but the lines get pretty blurry at times.

The bottom line goal of piracy (or going a' viking) is to secure the economic means to lead the life you want want, outside of the established rules.

Piracy - as it was in the old days - is applicable in EvE, however I do not believe many apply the standard procedures that real pirates would. First off, the last thing a crew of pirates wanted to do was fire on a ship, they could sink it and would lose the cargo, risking their lives for nothing is a pirates worst nightmare. So, instead, they would fire warning shots, pull along side the ship, disable her, and if the crew surrendered without a fight, most (except a few of the more bloodthirsty) pirate captains would release the crew, giving them their ship, or setting them adrift in life boats. Most aimed to capture both the ship and cargo.
Neither one of these things happen in EvE, the pirates i've seen so far will try to destroy your boat, your cargo, and you. This isen't piracy, in my humble opinion, it's just killing and picking up whats left.

In EvE, a ship such as a Iteron V, can have its propulsion and warpdrives nuetralized via module or interceptor, the ship and cargo hold can be scanned, the pilot can be hailed and offered terms and quarter if they comply with your demands. Not to mention ECM to neutralize weapons fire for other ship types. If they relinquish the cargo, you could let them go, execute them, or demand the ship as well. Once you have their pod, you can either set them adrift, or send them home with a pop of your gat. It depends if you want to build a reputation or how you want to be seen. Personally if they give over the ship and its cargo, I would release the pod without ransom for complying with my demands, I got what I wanted, I would let them go and if he ever runs into me again, he knows the treatment he can expect.

I've spoken with quite a few pirates, asking how they proceed and most of them don't do the ladder, they simply kill you. However, I did meet one group that specified that an average of 4 out of 10 pilots with eject if given the chance and it's demanded, in exchange for their release. It works especially well with interceptors because they know you have complete control over their fate and if they comply, there is a chance they could live through the ordeal.

Just my observations and data i've collected. I was thinking about going that route, but dealing with ships I capture a bit differently then most pirates. As long as they give me the ransom I demand (ship and cargo) I would let them go.

I would love to do just that, popping Industrials is often quite frustrating because I rarely have the cargo capacity to steal their stuff. However, in a rather ironic turn of events warp core stabilizers are at fault for getting these ships killed: if I see an Iteron at a customs office I always go for the kill and try to ransom the capsule, simply because there's a chance that he's using stabs and I'd rather get a kill than nothing. If you want more of these ships to be robbed & make it out in one piece you'll have to lobby for the removal of stabs -- good luck with that

To me, piracy is the act of violencing someone's boat (or demonstrating an imminent threat to do so) when profit is your primary motivation and your opponent isn't really expecting your attack.

It doesn't need to actually be profitable, just that you expect that it will be. The profit can be ransoms, loot, collection of bounties or whatever. The violence can be legal (nullsec roams, AWOX ransoms), illegal but not CONCORDable (lowsec roams), illegal and CONCORDable (Uedama freighter ganks) or whatever.

I'd exclude wide-scale extortion (like the New Order), strategic denial of resources to various entities (Miniluv outside of Uedama) and mercenary jobs (Whores in Space). I'd also exclude my personal lowsec roams as I tend to fly solo looking for trouble and expect to lose ISK out of them, even though I act like a pirate.