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Factional Warfare PVP Guide (Ex : Gallente)

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Bromeus Cahal
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#1 - 2013-07-09 22:57:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Bromeus Cahal
Factional Warfare is about fighting other factions. The goal is to control sites in low sec to eventually control them at 100%, then bashing the hub, and switching the system to your Faction. There is a few things to know before doing it, and here is a list of what you should know.

Travelling

1- If for example you are enlisted for the Gallente FW, you won't be able to fly without getting shot by militia members in Amarr space, and Caldari space. It is possible though to fly there without dying, as they won't scramble you. Use small ships, and you'll be fine.

2- Avoid flying big ships in closeby systems of Caldari and Amarr space, as many enlisted War Targets fly there. They will be able to shoot at you, even in high sec. Therefore, it is NOT safe to haul stuff for you as an enlisted pilot.


Docking restrictions.
You can't dock in Caldari and Amarr controlled Low sec stations. So don't buy stuff there, and don't try to dock.

Loyalty Points Farming

To earn loyalty points, you got to O-Plex or D-Plex. To D-Plex, you got to go in a Gallente space, defend an outpost for a certain time. To O-Plex, you got to go in a Caldari controlled space, go in an outpost, shoot at the mob there, stay there untill the timer is gone.

Outposts
To fight ships you are able to fight, you got to go in certain outposts. There are ships restrictions to enter them, as :
Novice : T1 Frigates can enter
Small : T2 Frigates, destroyers and below can enter
Medium : Cruisers and below can enter

Combat tactics

1- Local. To know what are the possible threats, you should ALWAYS look at the local chat. Check the total amount of members, check if they are together, if they are war targets, and how old are their characters.

2- Scanning. By using D-Scan, you will be able to know what are the ennemies. Using long scan (99999...max range) at 360 will let you know if people are in range, but far enough. Short scan (1million or so) at 360 will let you know who's in short range, so either outside of the outpost, or inside.

3- Fittings. Choosing between a MWD fit and a AB fit is important. AB fit will be tanky, sitting at the gate of the outpost waiting your ennemy and fitted with a scrambler and a web to have full control of the fight. MWD fit will be fast, and usually sniper fit so your ennemy won't even reach you.

4- Farming VS Fighting. You can choose to ''safe plex'' so basically just farming loyalty points. To do so, you should fit a cheap fit, with either a cloak or warp core stabilizers. Roaming pirates usually get bored when they see you disappearing from scan, or warping away.

5- Saving your POD. When you know you're about to die, align somewhere, then insta warp away. It's not worth it loosing a 80mil POD for a 8mil fit.

6- Scouting. Before flying big stuff, check at the systems statistics on the map, and scout before going there to avoid gate camps. Even scout at 100km outposts if you're not sure what is in there.

7- Warping to an outpost. Always warp at 10km, never at 0km because you will be stuck in the gate.

Just made this guide, and I am planning to update it. Feel free to comment !!
ReZoon
The Exchange Collective
Solyaris Chtonium
#2 - 2013-07-10 01:20:20 UTC
Bromeus Cahal wrote:
Factional Warfare is about fighting other factions. The goal is to control sites in low sec to eventually control them at 100%, then bashing the hub, and switching the system to your Faction. There is a few things to know before doing it, and here is a list of what you should know.

4- Farming VS Fighting. You can choose to ''safe plex'' so basically just farming loyalty points. To do so, you should fit a cheap fit, with either a cloak or warp core stabilizers. Roaming pirates usually get bored when they see you disappearing from scan, or warping away.


Just made this guide, and I am planning to update it. Feel free to comment !!



Isn't that the only part that matters for how to FW proper? It's been my experience anyway
Bromeus Cahal
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#3 - 2013-07-10 02:04:16 UTC
ReZoon wrote:
Bromeus Cahal wrote:
Factional Warfare is about fighting other factions. The goal is to control sites in low sec to eventually control them at 100%, then bashing the hub, and switching the system to your Faction. There is a few things to know before doing it, and here is a list of what you should know.

4- Farming VS Fighting. You can choose to ''safe plex'' so basically just farming loyalty points. To do so, you should fit a cheap fit, with either a cloak or warp core stabilizers. Roaming pirates usually get bored when they see you disappearing from scan, or warping away.


Just made this guide, and I am planning to update it. Feel free to comment !!



Isn't that the only part that matters for how to FW proper? It's been my experience anyway


Rezoom, it is a good way to make ISK, but that way you won't control systems, then not making that much LP compared to tier 3-4.

Also, fighting is much more fun !
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#4 - 2013-07-10 09:46:03 UTC
Bromeus Cahal wrote:
Also, fighting is much more fun !

Wait, people fight in Faction Warfare? All I ever see them do is cloak or run, who you trying to fool here hmmmmm???
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#5 - 2013-07-10 10:52:40 UTC
Dun'Gal wrote:
Bromeus Cahal wrote:
Also, fighting is much more fun !

Wait, people fight in Faction Warfare? All I ever see them do is cloak or run, who you trying to fool here hmmmmm???


Yes, there are LP farmers in all the FW areas, but there's also a lot of players in it for the fights. Many of the FW corps are purely about the combat.
ISD Tyrozan
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ISD Alliance
#6 - 2013-07-10 18:10:24 UTC
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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-07-10 18:18:43 UTC
How much isk do u make cloaking for lp gain? Are there any faction hits for the cloak farm method?
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#8 - 2013-07-10 20:54:21 UTC
This thread makes me sad.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#9 - 2013-07-10 20:58:13 UTC
I'm in FW for the fights and the ability to have lots of them without affecting my sec status (don't know why I care as HS is boring as ****!)

I also make enough LP from baiting in plex's or stealing them from LP farmers who assume I'm there to kill them (Hint: I will if I can Twisted)

To anyone who has the parience to farm LP in FW - bugger off and do some research, if you can stand doing nothing in game for hours on end you can bloody well look **** up!

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#10 - 2013-07-10 22:25:27 UTC
This thread has convinced me to Bio-Mass myself. It has finally dawned on me that we are all just LP farmers.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#11 - 2013-07-10 23:09:02 UTC
Sean Parisi wrote:
This thread has convinced me to Bio-Mass myself. It has finally dawned on me that we are all just LP farmers.


\o/ My work here is done, now I can go back to being a filthy scum pirate! Pirate

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
The Chicken Coop
#12 - 2013-07-11 00:05:06 UTC
There's a difference between FW low-sec and the rest of low that impacts docking rights.

For example Caldari and Amarr pilots may dock in Yvangier, a non-FW system in Gallente low-sec.

I'll just raise my eyebrow at the idea that you won't be scrambled by enemy militia and I'll leave it at that.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#13 - 2013-07-11 00:22:09 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
People who are just in FW for fights still make a lot of isk so no need to become a farmer.
If you are farming with a cloak and stabs - you are also having no fun.

Sure your profits are much higher but what is the point of continuing to farm if you don't fight?

There are a few tactics that will cause a cloaky farmer to leave a plex.
My personal fav is if they seem to be cloaking up when I get to the accel gate - I go fit a cloak and cloak up with them in the plex.

When I cloak up with them It's as if I can hear them calling upstairs to their welfare dependent mothers saying 'HES HURTING MEH IMAGINARY INCOME MUMMYYYYYYY WHAAAAAAWHAAA.'
To which their mothers reply 'You're a good boy Bubby' Lol (If you know what that references - you are laughing about now)


So - The farming tactics mentioned in the OP no longer guarantee you any income.
Basically - The best counter for a cloaky seems to be another cloaky.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#14 - 2013-07-11 00:27:49 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:

So - The farming tactics mentioned in the OP no longer guarantee you any income.
Basically - The best counter for a cloaky seems to be another cloaky.


FW piracy = best piracy


Damn! I need to change my bio.....again!!

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#15 - 2013-07-11 21:21:01 UTC
Don't forget, always, always spam warp to the plex celestial beacon when you get popped on the accelearion gate by your old ceo after talking a ton of smack in local. Save your pod every time Big smile
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#16 - 2013-07-12 15:54:47 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
How much isk do u make cloaking for lp gain? Are there any faction hits for the cloak farm method?



You don't lose standings for cloaking. But really I am not sure you need a cloak.

It is nice to have a cloak so you can just cloak up somewhere since you won't be able to dock if you are offensive plexing.

But with a couple of stabs and you are fairly immune to pvpers even if you are semi afk.

I don't know how much isk you can make. I think you can easilly get about 1.5k isk per lp and then I don't know what the tier payouts are.

I brought an alt back into fw for a bit and had it doing plexes while I do other things. I think I would complete about 2/3s of small and medium plexes without interference.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

MinmatarxXx
Universal Mining and Design
#17 - 2013-07-16 18:29:45 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
People who are just in FW for fights still make a lot of isk so no need to become a farmer.
If you are farming with a cloak and stabs - you are also having no fun.

Sure your profits are much higher but what is the point of continuing to farm if you don't fight?

There are a few tactics that will cause a cloaky farmer to leave a plex.
My personal fav is if they seem to be cloaking up when I get to the accel gate - I go fit a cloak and cloak up with them in the plex.

When I cloak up with them It's as if I can hear them calling upstairs to their welfare dependent mothers saying 'HES HURTING MEH IMAGINARY INCOME MUMMYYYYYYY WHAAAAAAWHAAA.'
To which their mothers reply 'You're a good boy Bubby' Lol (If you know what that references - you are laughing about now)


So - The farming tactics mentioned in the OP no longer guarantee you any income.
Basically - The best counter for a cloaky seems to be another cloaky.


I do rage at myself when my income is hurt, but damn, that's a bad idea (for me), never happened to me before and thank goodness. I don't cloak though, so that won't work. Runners always get off better because they can always go find another PLEX.
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
The Chicken Coop
#18 - 2013-07-16 20:39:06 UTC
MinmatarxXx wrote:
they can always go find another PLEX.


Please stop contributing the confusion of plex and PLEX.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#19 - 2013-07-17 06:39:55 UTC
JAF Anders wrote:
MinmatarxXx wrote:
they can always go find another PLEX.


Please stop contributing the confusion of plex and PLEX.



I'm plexing in plexs for plex. Big smile
Theroine
Pew Pew Pirates
#20 - 2013-07-17 06:49:17 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
I'm plexing in plexs for plex. Big smile


How many plexing plexes do you need to plex for a PLEX? And is a PLEX worth plexing plexes if a plex is deplexed rather than plexed?Pirate
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