EVE General Discussion

Last year, a friend of mine I hadn't seen in a long time was visiting for a week...

I needed money for ships for some war effort and so was farming complexes for isk...

He watched me for a while and left, came back a few hours later and watched me some more...

Then he said: "All ever see you do is select little red squares and then click on the gun symbols at the bottom. Sometimes I see windows full of little icons that you move around..."

He asked me: "What happened to you? You would have never done something so monotonous and useless when we were hanging out!"


I just stared at him, thinking "hey, just a minute ago, this made perfect sense for me to be doing, you ruined it!"


I played EVE since release, but with longish breaks. Because every time I got frustrated with EVE lacking what I really wanted in a space game, I stopped playing it, but then, when I wanted a sci-fi fix, there still wasn't any other game that had what I wanted.

Namely a Privateer / Starlancer kind of experience where you really fly your ship and aim your blasters, rather than relying on algorithms deciding if I hit or not.


But EVE was a pretty good hold-over, until my friend ruined it by telling me the truth about my multi-hour ******** looking activity. Wasting time on something thoroughly annoying (farming isk) in hopes to get to pvp, wasting more hours sitting in fleets that don't move, for a little bit of excitement in fights that more often than not got decided by lag or other factors I had nothing to do with.

I imagine joining a smaller pirate alliance rather than a big one might fix some of that by getting into smaller fights. But still, it will never be what I'm looking for. Hence I went and helped fund Chris Roberts' operation. Whether he succeeds or not, he's aiming to build exactly what I want in a space game...

Well, the other problem is that literally all my friends left EVE, and having been in certain alliances pretty much precludes you from getting into certain other alliances given the power blocks and all the spying and scheming going on.

So, this time, I don't know what I'm doing in EVE. I looked at the new ships and the neat new effects in space. Walking around still doesn't extend beyond the pointless captain's quarters. The new ships have nice shapes and all, but I can't see spending an hour to figure out a good fitting for this or that and then go out and select more red rectangles, followed by guns hitting or missing all on their own. Even in a Jaguar, the sensation of speed is weak when you're not sitting in the cockpit. And selling stuff in Stations? I might as well call ebay my new game...


Any suggestions on something truly new and fun to do in EVE? Well ok, cut out fun from the request, since that's subjective... how about just something new to do, that doesn't require weeks of isk grinding first?

That was always one of my isk grinding alternatives if I couldn't find a complex.


I presume you mention these, because they got changed a lot...?

Try Bombers Bar. No politics, anyone can x up and it's a lot of fun and general harassment.

And the SB ain't a pricey ship class.

Plus you mentioned something about a war effort? Why not combine the two?

Hmm, the guy who suggested starting a corporation missed that I played since 2003, I've had a corp, been involved in corps and alliances in every possible capacity.

And war is a lot less fun than small gang action...

Hell, when we were taking Delve, we waited and camped so long, FC's were either reading novels to the fleet or singing songs with bad guitar play, to keep the whole fleet from falling asleep in their chairs... Have you ever waited on scouts finding what they needed to find, or worse, waited in a cap ship for hours to be cleared to jump to the next boring POS shoot?

And that's not even the outright game failures, like fleets jumping into a system and being frozen or kicked off, and then being unable to get back in, knowing you just lost another ship without having fired a single shot...

Depending on the players you end up with, that can indeed be fun. I might actually go for that for a bit...


But this is stuff that bored people in large alliances have been doing since bombers came out. We all had a few bombers and the alliance had lists of fittings...

It was alright. Searching for targets took a little too long for fun oriented people.


If I sit down to play a game, I want FUN-NOW, not hours later after doing more preparations than people wanting to rob a real life bank.



I think, maybe I'm just through...

You can click the "Look At" button so you don't have to only see red crosses.

could be true. eve is a waiting marathon.

but it's casual PvP so you can drop fleet, sleep, and regret it when everyone else is spazzing in the public channel about how great it was.

i probably wouldn't still be subbing if not for this sort of thing. I got bored of carebearing and i've got a horror of everythign else.

What you are feeling is the biggest problem I have seen in the much shorter time I've been playing...... that is

Innovation and change are frowned on in EVE to a very large extent, because most long term players are worried that ANY
real change will somehow mess up the eco system and the EVE-world will come to an end....... so as a result.

1) PVE (HighSec) is the same as when i started playing a few years ago. PVPers try to bane it!
2) PVP is still "Open world" only for the most part with no Arenas as in most all other MMO's, so it's hard get in to it.


The ships don't even have Cockpit WINDOWS.... how in the world can you see out of them?



If you don't believe me, just read most forum posts that try to add value.... they get beat down..... "I was born in this whole, and I'll die in this whole"...


I enjoy the game though, mostly because I love the space thing and there is nothing else.

Gona have too say it before my .2isk. Can I haz your stuff?

now my serious point. if you have not tryed wormholes do that before kicking in the bucket. Less pve grind from my exp in it as the stuff you get from the sleepers sell sell sell and sell some more.