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Mind control isn't real. People aren't dumb. Governments and organizations and corporations don't engage in propaganda. Heaven's Gate won't kill themselves over a comet and nobody will drink Jim Jones' kool-aid, Jesse Ventura wasn't drug into a basement room of his state capital and interrogated by Federal Agents and the Unabomber wasn't a mind-control research subject at Harvard. These things are very obvious by your flow-chart and complete and highly erudite grasp of the history of psychological operations and mind-control operations. Faith healing actually works too, it's not just a conspiracy to brainwash millions and millions of people. And did you know water retains the mystical properties of subtances it comes in contact with? You never have to buy perscription drugs again because you only need one which you crush down and put in a bucket of water. Then you can dillute that water over and over again and the water absorbs the aura of the drug and still has the exact same effect! Matha-Mitchell was a nut case, there was never any break-in of the Watergate hotel. And, the United States didn't declare war on Islamic extremism and subsequently overthrow a secular fascist state and replace it with a government whose constitution reads "no law shall be made contrary to the law of Islam" and henceforth expanded the power of the Caliphate in the name of liberty.

Really! I know it's true, because there's no such thing as mind control.

"The power of the purse or the sword, compared to that of the spirit, is poor and contemptible. As to lands, you may have agrarian laws, and equal partition. But a man's intellect is all his own, held direct from God, an inalienable fief. It is the most potent of weapons in the hands of a paladin. If the people comprehend Force in the physical sense, how much more do they reverence the intellectual! Ask Hildebrand, or Luther, or Loyola. They fall prostrate before it, as before an idol. The mastery of mind over mind is the only conquest worth having. The other injures both, and dissolves at a breath; rude as it is, the great cable falls down and snaps at last. But this dimly resembles the dominion of the Creator. It does not need a subject like that of Peter the Hermit. If the stream be but bright and strong, it will sweep like a spring-tide to the popular heart." - Morals and Dogma

Hate to break it to you, but mind-control research and methods are very very real and have been the target of billions in government and academic funds. It's nice that people have this hegemonic group-think "tinfoil hat" and the like cliches to discredit people when they make accusations of fraud, sophestry, and torture, but you really make yourself look just illiterate when you try to discredit it by straw-men mock ups of some of the more extreme forms of misinformation promulgated regarding its methods and history. This is an excellent book: http://www.amazon.com/Question-Torture-Interrogation-American-Project/dp/0805082484/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373648409&sr=8-1&keywords=cia+torture

Ever heard the song "Child of Vision" by Supertramp? Listened to their album "Crime of the Century?" Read passages in the Revelation about the "Super Tramp [great whore] of Babylon?"

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Or do you think the Amarr wouldn't betray the Caldari for scripture?

"Hence flow overreachings and sharp practice, heartless traffic in which the capitalist buys profit with the lives of the laborers, speculations that coin a nation's agonies into wealth, and all the other devilish enginery of Mammon. This, and greed for office, are the two columns at the entrance to the Temple of Moloch. It is doubtful whether the latter, blossoming in falsehood, trickery, and fraud, is not even more pernicious than the former. At all events they are twins, and fitly mated." - Morals and Dogma


Anyway, you're probably one of those people who doesn't think Osama Bin Laden's father has a giant monument hovering over the Grand Mosque in Saudi Arabia...

You are quite possibly the best troll I have ever seen. This one post was a work of art.

I really have no clue. Cartesian philosophy would not lead me to completely reject the notion given there is extremely high amount of ionizing radiation beyond the ionosphere. But I have no specific reason to believe it was faked though neither have I investigated it carefully - rocket science isn't particularly difficult either so it seems completely real to me. But, you see, that really is a big ******* red herring when it comes to mind control because it really has next to no consequence for anyone whether it was faked or not. There are plenty of empirical, documented instances that would fall under the general category of "mind control" that have seriously harmed and/or killed many many people.

The ISS maintains super-low earth orbit to avoid the radiation outside the ionosphere and they don't let people spacewalk for much more than 12 hours outside of it to service satellites because of it, which is the only lingering question I have about the moon-landing. Of course, it's not enough of a question for me to investigate fully the amount of radiation present and whether or not it's particularly dangerous or if they just try to minimize it for satellite maintenance hence the spacewalk limitations. It's not much of a question to me because walking on big giant deserts without oxygen is certainly cool, but it's only neat in an aesthetic and symbolic way, and not of immense value in any other way.

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As you'll see a lot of my isk is tied up in random **** and even more is tied up in mysterious large volume transfers to other characters, often with the strange brand "character purchase".

What could it all mean?

Also APIs in no way help someone hack an account.

Again, your theory about eve is simply not mirrored by the reality of eve. Full APIs are used because it's easier than specifying the things you need to check the recruit is who he says he is. You ask who he is then ask for all the background documentation and check all/some/none of that against his story. If the guy says he runs incursions and you see no incursion payments in his wallet history then that's a red flag. If he says he has no alts but he has mysterious isk transfers with no description back and forth from a toon then that's a red flag. Seeing what he is buying is both superfluous because as a corp director you can just look in his hangar and see what he has, because you can tell him what to buy for the stuff your corp does and because you can just ask the dude.

Even for things like finding out what the Goon's next doctrine is by their market activities. It's not like their doctrines are a huge secret. They tell their dudes to train for ships and they seed their stations with them and they tell members to get them to the warzone.

You don't need an enormous network of APIs pulling market data into some ridiculously complicated program that spits out information which is somehow sorted by relevance and put in a meaningful form. If you want to know these things you just ask the dude and he'll tell you. That's the point you're missing. Your conspiracy theory is an elaborately complicated solution to a problem that exists only in your head while the use of the API is as a general solution which exists whenever any corp recruits anyone.

I didn't say one "needs" it... in fact, I specifically said they don't need it... which is why it should be removed because it's an exploit.

You can only look in the hanger if your corp has an office there, and if the player hasn't stashed all their stuff in containers. MMO's that demand I submit my account status in the form of assets, finances, and inventory to other players aren't ones that I will participate in in that way. Neither the Gallente nor the Calderi would approve of APIs either... the former because it interfereces with a person's independence and the latter because it interferes with a free-market.

I know what an IP is. It on'y takes one IP to extract information. I'm not worried about people hacking my account with it, I said releasing personal in-game financial info creates an unfair market - which it does.

You missed the point of the dragon metaphor. God doesn't need to nerf dragons to stop me flying my dragon to work because I don't actually fly my dragon to work because I don't have a dragon and nor does anyone else. Likewise CCP don't need to remove financial APIs to stop dragons assembling databases and becoming EVE tycoons because the dragons that run the databases exist only in your head.

On the other hand, I'm arguing with a person who, when I claimed that I flew to work by dragon, thought "sounds legit".

You only know that cos you datamined the API.

Admit it.

You are in on this to....it goes all the way to the......well, somewhere