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Fat-Cat Doctrine: Game Changer

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#1 - 2013-07-06 17:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Last night Caldari Admiral Kahn "KAHHHNNNN!!!!" Farshatok took the fight to a whole new level. In one fell swoop he nullified the only two remaining advantages the Gallente had with what our Intelligence Sources are calling the "Fat-Cat Doctrine".

The Fat-Cat is a simple fitted Tristan hull with two objectives: 1) Remove the effect of lousy Caldari pilots from the battle by concentrating as much of the piloting, targeting, and basically everything to the FC, and 2) Deny FDU pilots any worthwhile loot.

Bottom Line: Kahn plans to starve us to death, just like he tried to starve Kirk to death by transporting him to the center of a planet. This is an all-out war of attrition - to the bitter end.

Here is the fit:
[Fat Cat, Tristan]
Small Shield Transporter I
200mm Autocannon Ix2
1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender I
Warp Scrambler I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Overdrive Injector Ix2
Small Capacitor Control Circuit Ix3
8x Tech 1 Drones

The fleet doctrine is brilliant. Set up inside a FW Plex, turn on the MWD, hit "keep at range 500" to the FC, launch drones and assign them to the FC, put the small shield transporter on the FC (since he is the only one actively piloting and targeting anything). And wait. The only thing the fleet members need to do is engage anybody who attacks the FC with their autocannons and scram. "F1" and "F2" isn't very hard - even for a Squid.

What makes this fit a "game changer" however, is the fact that there is no loot that the Federation Militia pilots can use to replenish their ship losses. There is nothing of value here with the sole exception of the Capacitor Control Circuits. In fact, the CCC's cost 3x the rest of the ship. This might sound "moronic" at first, but in reality it's brilliant because rigs don't drop and so an enemy fleet can't use them to resupply their forces. That, coupled with the fact that Gallente are at Tier 1 and cannot make isk in FW, will likely prove to be the last nail in the coffin for the Gallente Militia. We will not be able to endure our losses for much longer.

Difficult times are ahead.
QuakeGod
Empire Manufacturing
#2 - 2013-07-06 17:22:02 UTC  |  Edited by: QuakeGod
X Gallentius wrote:

What makes this fit a "game changer" however, is the fact that there is no loot that the Federation Militia pilots can use to replenish their ship losses. There is nothing of value here with the sole exception of the Capacitor Control Circuits.


Rigs don't drop.

Edit: Yes, I saw you stated that already.
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#3 - 2013-07-06 17:37:51 UTC
Get a smart bomb. GG
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#4 - 2013-07-06 19:26:52 UTC
Chessur wrote:
Get a smart bomb. GG


So in FW there are these things called Novice plexes...
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#5 - 2013-07-06 20:08:50 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Chessur wrote:
Get a smart bomb. GG


So in FW there are these things called Novice plexes...


Yah and there is a thing called a small smart bomb
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#6 - 2013-07-06 21:30:12 UTC
I dunno. Seems like with only small smartbombs you'd not destroy drones quickly enough, but I don't have much experience trying.

There's also the issue of those autocannons even if the smartbombs are an effective counter to the drone dps.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#7 - 2013-07-06 21:55:46 UTC
Who could possibly find enjoyment in being in such a fleet? Faction Warfare, e-uni style.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#8 - 2013-07-06 21:58:25 UTC
Could a dedicated alpha frigate squad break the reps on the FC? Because that fleet will be screwed without the FC.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#9 - 2013-07-06 22:15:05 UTC
Get out of their drone range and snipe them into oblivion?
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#10 - 2013-07-07 00:46:31 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
These are all excellent suggestions, but I'm afraid both have their drawbacks. The smartbombs are a killer to our faction standings, and their tristans are FAST and will close in on our snipers for easy kills. No, I fear that these are the end times for the Gallente.
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#11 - 2013-07-07 03:14:17 UTC
..clears throat...
Grandma Squirel
#12 - 2013-07-07 03:42:30 UTC
Jam/Damp enemy FC...

Also, do drone assigns work in Faction Warfare? I found them to be useless when pirating in lowsec, as the drones wont attack...
Fret Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-07-07 05:15:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Fret Thiesant
Grandma Squirel wrote:
Jam/Damp enemy FC...

Also, do drone assigns work in Faction Warfare? I found them to be useless when pirating in lowsec, as the drones wont attack...



I've had issues with assigning drones in low sec space. The buggers just kind of sit there sometimes.



*Oh and looking at that setup the trists are using try arty rifters.
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#14 - 2013-07-07 07:00:09 UTC
Troll with serous answers best troll.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#15 - 2013-07-07 08:24:20 UTC
In an epic battle between atron blobs and tristan-cat blobs, there can be only one...
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#16 - 2013-07-07 11:06:02 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Who could possibly find enjoyment in being in such a fleet? Faction Warfare, e-uni style.


in fact khan who makes these fleets is official clown of Caldari miltiia so he has huge number of followers having fun and exploding !
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#17 - 2013-07-07 13:23:51 UTC
Grandma Squirel wrote:
Jam/Damp enemy FC... Also, do drone assigns work in Faction Warfare? I found them to be useless when pirating in lowsec, as the drones wont attack...
Drones are jam/damp resistant because you can:
1. Assist somebody who is not jammed/damped, and
2. Put them on "aggressive" so that if you are jam/damped they will still apply dps.

Our fitting experts are still at work trying to counter this setup. Will report back soon and get your opinions.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#18 - 2013-07-07 14:16:41 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Grandma Squirel wrote:
Jam/Damp enemy FC... Also, do drone assigns work in Faction Warfare? I found them to be useless when pirating in lowsec, as the drones wont attack...
Drones are jam/damp resistant because you can:
1. Assist somebody who is not jammed/damped, and
2. Put them on "aggressive" so that if you are jam/damped they will still apply dps.

Our fitting experts are still at work trying to counter this setup. Will report back soon and get your opinions.


ecm burst !

nothing can go wrong !
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#19 - 2013-07-07 14:20:36 UTC
Dear Jim, my enemies are flying a fleet comp with precisely 0% natural EM resist. Can you fix it for me to please bring some lasers?
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#20 - 2013-07-07 15:21:16 UTC
ECM bursts are just like smartbombs and therefore aren't a good option. We will look at lasers and get back to you.

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