Crime & Punishment

Hey there,

Reading the above it looks more to me, that you have been ganked (the killright was not activated).
Even more you have been ganked by Aaaarrgg , who is a devoted pod killer, and a -10.0 character.

Whatever you do with your killright, it won't really matter, as Aaaarrgg can be legally shot by anyone in space

If you want to avoid being pod-killed-ganked in the future, I strongly suggest you hop into a rookie frig for the next autopilot session. Considering those are for free as soon as you dock in your pod, I don't see why anyone should autopilot in a pod.

Thank Aaaarrgg for making the learning curve of EVE even steeper

1) If he exercised a kill right on you, IIRC you would not get a kill right on him, because it was a legal kill.

2) A kill right on a -10 character is worth less than the number of kilobytes it takes to store the information.

3) Flying into Jita in a pod is a bad idea regardless of your sec and kill right status. If you insist on doing so, better have a quick dock bookmark.

Happy Ganking.

A side note, you say he took advantage of you paying attention to the other character, how would he know which screen you're looking at?

The title is both contradictory and missleading.

He wouldn't - Except that I left my pod immobile. He didn't need to know *what* distracted me to take advantage of the fact that I was being stupid.


What? Gankers don't have ethics? I'd say that's otherwise, albeit a very crude and basic set of ethics, and few rules - but unstated rules grow in any community. As a new ganker, I'm trying to get a feel for what they might be.

I will also, when presented with a non-whiny victim, will offer some basic advice. Mine might not be as good as that of others, but that still seems to be a standard reaction amongst gankers. So - there's one identifiable common behavior right there. Likewise, whinging and tears get you mocked and trolled - so there's another. Never give a sucker an even break - there's a third.

So... talking about ethics amongst gankers isn't entirely pointless.

As already mentioned the killrights on me are meaningless , and I can be freely killed anywhere without them as im sure PO3T can testify :) as he does frequently kill me.

and for the record it was a KR activation and i guess a legal kill so no KR on me for a change, after killing you I warped to the next gate and got another 120 mill pod before concord got me \0/

I love pods with 0 isk KR means I can get 2 kills with 1 ship

Personally, ganking isn't what I find tedious and immature, but any kind of 'luls @ u, noob' or stuff about harvesting tears is.

If I was a ganker, I'd like to think I'd take the higher road and be courteous and commiseratory even to 'whiners'. Telling someone who's upset (however misguidedly) 'HTFU crybaby!' Etc does nothing to educate them into learning to enjoy the game and maybe even provide a better opponent in future, IMO.

And well-executed kill it was, too. Mine was only 50M or so, but a two-fer must be a real bonus. Not properly understanding the rules on KRs, I was kinda torn - If I *had* an active KR, I was loathe to let it pass, but at the same time by my lights I totally deserved the gank, so didn't seem right to set folks on your tail for basically smacking sense into me. Wasn't auto-piloting, but wasn't paying proper attention, either. Clearly a capital violation of rules of survival.

Hence the call out to the C&P community - just trying to settle the internal conflict. Fortunately, this whole business has cleared a few things up for me, and I can happily move on.

@ Don Purple; Where do you operate?


When I do get tears, I tend to basically rub their faces in what they did wrong, rather than going down the "Sux, Du. HTFU or GTFO" route. If I don't get tears, I'll politely tell them the same thing - Either way, I guess I'm giving corrective advice. Unless they're aggressive punks about it. Which hasn't happened yet. When it does, then I plan on being rude.

Speaking of ganker ethics, Last night I found myself in a prediciment. There was a freighter ben=ing awoxed in a belt by a thrasher and i was in my trusty rusty nado ready to blap someone. This freighter pilot offered 500m to whoever killed the thrasher scramming him. While on the belt i made a descion to duel the sad little screaming freighter pilot and see what happened....

Well turns out he wasnt very smart and accepted it. So now I found myself facing a question of morality. He had a cargohold full of BPOs and ore which he jetcanned. so I could have picked them up and ****** off but I ended up killing him and podding him. Did I make the right call?

Be it of note, you have friends in space that pleasantly wave and do not shoot, as you pass by on your mission of nomercy.