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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1521 - 2011-12-21 01:10:01 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

WiS isn't a feature that is relevant to internet spaceships.


It's a feature relevant to eve.

Otherwise it would never have been developed.

And how did that work out for the game?


It never was implemented.. So your question is hypothetical ?

As for that i cant really answer.. But it doesnt seem it done any harm to EVE.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#1522 - 2011-12-21 01:14:47 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

WiS isn't a feature that is relevant to internet spaceships.


It's a feature relevant to eve.

Otherwise it would never have been developed.

And how did that work out for the game?


It's funny how most of the arguments from WiS haters amounts to nothing more than 'OMG IT"S NOT SPACESHIPS THEREFORES I HATEZ IT'.

Get an immagination fool.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1523 - 2011-12-21 01:41:51 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Get an immagination fool.

Heh...immagination

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1524 - 2011-12-21 01:42:58 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:


As for that i cant really answer.. But it doesnt seem it done any harm to EVE.

I bet the CCP employees that lost their job would disagree with you.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1525 - 2011-12-21 01:45:49 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:


As for that i cant really answer.. But it doesnt seem it done any harm to EVE.

I bet the employees that lost their job would agree with you.


Selective quoting .. is great..
Disdaine
#1526 - 2011-12-21 01:47:19 UTC
I didn't get the toy I wanted!

*breaks other kids toys*

*goes home*
robbyx
#1527 - 2011-12-21 01:48:16 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

WiS isn't a feature that is relevant to internet spaceships.


It's a feature relevant to eve.

Otherwise it would never have been developed.

And how did that work out for the game?


It's funny how most of the arguments from WiS haters amounts to nothing more than 'OMG IT"S NOT SPACESHIPS THEREFORES I HATEZ IT'.

Get an immagination fool.



.....and all your moronic arguments amount to...." please CCP, abandon everything that made EVE online the great game it is, for a wildly unpopular and unproven system that will allow me to play space dress ups with my friends...even though this has caused many job losses, many people to quit the game, the first decline in numbers ever at expansion time...i dont care about that...I WANNA DRESS UP MY AVATAR !!!!!!!! "
Disdaine
#1528 - 2011-12-21 01:51:00 UTC
I can't remember the last time I saw a post asking CCP to ignore FiS to work on WiS.

In fact most people in support of WiS would rather CCP still focused on FiS.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1529 - 2011-12-21 01:51:40 UTC
robbyx wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

WiS isn't a feature that is relevant to internet spaceships.


It's a feature relevant to eve.

Otherwise it would never have been developed.

And how did that work out for the game?


It's funny how most of the arguments from WiS haters amounts to nothing more than 'OMG IT"S NOT SPACESHIPS THEREFORES I HATEZ IT'.

Get an immagination fool.



.....and all your moronic arguments amount to...." please CCP, abandon everything that made EVE online the great game it is, for a wildly unpopular and unproven system that will allow me to play space dress ups with my friends...even though this has caused many job losses, many people to quit the game, the first decline in numbers ever at expansion time...i dont care about that...I WANNA DRESS UP MY AVATAR !!!!!!!! "


I agree, problem is, that this is not the case for the people who like the idea behind "Ambulation". Its imagination you and others created to make some point which is not there.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1530 - 2011-12-21 01:52:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Flamespar wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

WiS isn't a feature that is relevant to internet spaceships.


It's a feature relevant to eve.

Otherwise it would never have been developed.

And how did that work out for the game?


It's funny how most of the arguments from WiS haters amounts to nothing more than 'OMG IT"S NOT SPACESHIPS THEREFORES I HATEZ IT'.

Get an immagination fool.


I got no problem with WIS as long as:

1) it never COMPROMISES FIS development again like it has for the last 2+ years
2) it always remains OPTIONAL like CCP promised us.
3) A NEX store MT never provides an in-game advantage, be it golden ammo, or FIS-usable items players did not create.

Other than that, you can play space-Barbie dress-up, and emote/dance all you want for all I care.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#1531 - 2011-12-21 01:54:14 UTC
robbyx wrote:

.....and all your moronic arguments amount to...." please CCP, abandon everything that made EVE online the great game it is, for a wildly unpopular and unproven system that will allow me to play space dress ups with my friends...even though this has caused many job losses, many people to quit the game, the first decline in numbers ever at expansion time...i dont care about that...I WANNA DRESS UP MY AVATAR !!!!!!!! "


Again, see how the barely incoherent arguments against WiS amount only to rhetoric, finger pointing, and breath holding.

Nobody is wanting Incarna to be about playing dress ups.

Incarna was the latest in a long series of mistakes that caused subscribers to drop and the resulting job loss. Attributing the drop in subscribers as being sorely due to Incarna - whilst making for great (albeit simplistic) rhetoric - is lazy analysis.

Nobody is asking that CCP abandon anything, quite the contrary actually.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1532 - 2011-12-21 01:54:50 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
I got no problem with WIS as long as:

1) it never COMPROMISES FIS development again like it has for the last 2+ years
2) it always remains OPTIONAL like CCP promised us.
3) A NEX store MT never provides an in-game advantage, be it golden ammo, or FIS-usable items players did not create.

Other than that, you can play space-Barbie dress-up all you want for all I care.

You sound way too reasonable for this horrible thread.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1533 - 2011-12-21 01:57:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Lost jobs, was probably not result of INCARNA. More like buyout of whitewolf and developing three games, and quite frankly the world economics doesnt work that great either. So another loan rejected etc.

People create something link it to some random event and here we go they won the case.

I for one dont care about WiS nor about FiS .. there are people who want one or the other or both. And i dont see a problem with having all .. in due time.

Actually there are not people who want just WiS ..or at least there should not be such people.
robbyx
#1534 - 2011-12-21 02:23:51 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
robbyx wrote:

.....and all your moronic arguments amount to...." please CCP, abandon everything that made EVE online the great game it is, for a wildly unpopular and unproven system that will allow me to play space dress ups with my friends...even though this has caused many job losses, many people to quit the game, the first decline in numbers ever at expansion time...i dont care about that...I WANNA DRESS UP MY AVATAR !!!!!!!! "


Again, see how the barely incoherent arguments against WiS amount only to rhetoric, finger pointing, and breath holding.

Nobody is wanting Incarna to be about playing dress ups.

Incarna was the latest in a long series of mistakes that caused subscribers to drop and the resulting job loss. Attributing the drop in subscribers as being sorely due to Incarna - whilst making for great (albeit simplistic) rhetoric - is lazy analysis.

Nobody is asking that CCP abandon anything, quite the contrary actually.



You are indeed asking CCP for WiS, which would, again require them devoting time and resources to developing it, which would in turn require them to pull people from FiS to work on WiS...unless they want to hire a whole new team to work on WiS, some how i dont think they will.

As for the drop in subs due to INCARNA...for me personally and the other people i know who left, all th other stuff made me angry, but, it was the amount of time and resources used to take EVE in a direction neither they nor i wanted to have any part of, if this is the direction EVE is headed, im outties, and so were they.....thankfully CCP has re-focused back to what made EVE great.

As to the "dress up" thing...give me one instance where WiS is of any benefit to the core play of EVE, just one.....how is it helpful to shooting other peoples spaceships ?
Do you just want to walk around a station ? do you just want to come face to face with your friends avatars ? SWTOR has all that, maybe you'd be better of there.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1535 - 2011-12-21 02:52:03 UTC
robbyx wrote:
You are indeed asking CCP for WiS, which would, again require them devoting time and resources to developing it, which would in turn require them to pull people from FiS to work on WiS...unless they want to hire a whole new team to work on WiS, some how i dont think they will.

As for the drop in subs due to INCARNA...for me personally and the other people i know who left, all th other stuff made me angry, but, it was the amount of time and resources used to take EVE in a direction neither they nor i wanted to have any part of, if this is the direction EVE is headed, im outties, and so were they.....thankfully CCP has re-focused back to what made EVE great.

As to the "dress up" thing...give me one instance where WiS is of any benefit to the core play of EVE, just one.....how is it helpful to shooting other peoples spaceships ?
Do you just want to walk around a station ? do you just want to come face to face with your friends avatars ? SWTOR has all that, maybe you'd be better of there.

This guy gets it.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1536 - 2011-12-21 03:29:02 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
robbyx wrote:
You are indeed asking CCP for WiS, which would, again require them devoting time and resources to developing it, which would in turn require them to pull people from FiS to work on WiS...unless they want to hire a whole new team to work on WiS, some how i dont think they will.

As for the drop in subs due to INCARNA...for me personally and the other people i know who left, all th other stuff made me angry, but, it was the amount of time and resources used to take EVE in a direction neither they nor i wanted to have any part of, if this is the direction EVE is headed, im outties, and so were they.....thankfully CCP has re-focused back to what made EVE great.

As to the "dress up" thing...give me one instance where WiS is of any benefit to the core play of EVE, just one.....how is it helpful to shooting other peoples spaceships ?
Do you just want to walk around a station ? do you just want to come face to face with your friends avatars ? SWTOR has all that, maybe you'd be better of there.

This guy gets it.

Both of you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. I will say that you do excel at being blindly negative and totally adverse to any new type of potential content for Eve.

Obviously you didn't watch or understand the CCP preview trailers centered on WiS and DUST 514 interaction.

CCP's vision has always been from the very start to create a Virtual Reality Science Fiction Universe, not just a Spaceship Simulation game.

Like it or not, in the near future there will be more WiS content seeded into the game. It'll be small increments at first and then over time it'll bloom into full blown expansions. I for one welcome it and look forward to it. If that change incites players to leave, then good riddance. The Eve Community doesn't need negative members who are adverse to change.

By the way, thanks for keeping this thread alive with your constant objectionable posting. Please keep doing it.

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robbyx
#1537 - 2011-12-21 03:53:07 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
robbyx wrote:
You are indeed asking CCP for WiS, which would, again require them devoting time and resources to developing it, which would in turn require them to pull people from FiS to work on WiS...unless they want to hire a whole new team to work on WiS, some how i dont think they will.

As for the drop in subs due to INCARNA...for me personally and the other people i know who left, all th other stuff made me angry, but, it was the amount of time and resources used to take EVE in a direction neither they nor i wanted to have any part of, if this is the direction EVE is headed, im outties, and so were they.....thankfully CCP has re-focused back to what made EVE great.

As to the "dress up" thing...give me one instance where WiS is of any benefit to the core play of EVE, just one.....how is it helpful to shooting other peoples spaceships ?
Do you just want to walk around a station ? do you just want to come face to face with your friends avatars ? SWTOR has all that, maybe you'd be better of there.

This guy gets it.

Both of you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. I will say that you do excel at being blindly negative and totally adverse to any new type of potential content for Eve.

Obviously you didn't watch or understand the CCP preview trailers centered on WiS and DUST 514 interaction.

CCP's vision has always been from the very start to create a Virtual Reality Science Fiction Universe, not just a Spaceship Simulation game.

Like it or not, in the near future there will be more WiS content seeded into the game. It'll be small increments at first and then over time it'll bloom into full blown expansions. I for one welcome it and look forward to it. If that change incites players to leave, then good riddance. The Eve Community doesn't need negative members who are adverse to change.

By the way, thanks for keeping this thread alive with your constant objectionable posting. Please keep doing it.



Your the blind one here buddy....if you think we will ever see a full blown WiS expansion, like the one that just caused mass protests and players to unsub in droves, your an idiot.....it already did incite players to leave, and CCP didnt like it so they stopped.

What the EVE community doesnt need is full blown retards like you trying to turn EVE into WoW in space...kindly f**k of back to whatever free-to-play bullsh*t you came from.

Kind regards, the REAL EVE community.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#1538 - 2011-12-21 04:09:16 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:


By the way, thanks for keeping this thread alive with your constant objectionable posting. Please keep doing it.


My only reason for posting in this thread is because, well, the analogy would be like watching someone close to drowning and struggles for one's life.

Entertainment, simply entertainment.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Disdaine
#1539 - 2011-12-21 04:34:08 UTC
robbyx wrote:

Your the blind one here buddy....if you think we will ever see a full blown WiS expansion, like the one that just caused mass protests and players to unsub in droves, your an idiot.....it already did incite players to leave, and CCP didnt like it so they stopped.

What the EVE community doesnt need is full blown retards like you trying to turn EVE into WoW in space...kindly f**k of back to whatever free-to-play bullsh*t you came from.


Yeah, the eve community needs more people like you. Roll
Eternize
Siam Dragons
#1540 - 2011-12-21 04:58:10 UTC
Disdaine wrote:


Yeah, the eve community needs more people like you. Roll


+1
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