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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Ai Shun
#2501 - 2012-01-13 08:24:41 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
highlighted some parts ,why it is more then "we know nothing,no info"
sure ,we have to wait and see ,what CCP is gonna do, but its enough for me for now


It is really not that dissimilar to what has been said before.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#2502 - 2012-01-13 09:54:28 UTC
So WIS isn't dead, it's on life support. Gee, thanks CCP.

I'm so glad you spent all that time/effort/money trying to bring Wis to life, only to have it breath a quick gasp of life, cough, and then lapse into a diabetic coma while vomiting on itself.

If you're going to play Dr.Frankenstein, at least get the monster alive before you try and kill it with fire.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#2503 - 2012-01-13 09:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: xxxTRUSTxxx
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
i will not pay so others have their fun while i am stuck with pretty muh the same content that interested me for three years but not any longer.


time to unsub so, EVE is sand box, you make of it what you will. you have a limited imagination, this is not the other players fault.

also,, you are paying so you can play,, not so others can.

go have a read of the amount of content the game has seen come into it over the last 3 years.

undock dude, leave the system you hang around in, do something beyond what you do already.

if you are still bored, back to what i said at the start, time to unsub so.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#2504 - 2012-01-13 10:03:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Ai Shun wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
That is all we wanted to hear from the get go.


I fail to see how this is really that much different to what CCP Guard said before. Or from what Hilmar said before! It's gone from "On ice for a bit" to "We don't have a concrete timeline" to "We may release something that is almost finished, but we don't have a concrete timeline".

****, but you people have problems if something that has been said before placates you like that.

Just roll over and have his children already.



Sigh.

In not so many words:

Guards first response indicated WiS is on ice and we should deal with it by giving people our stuffs if we didn't like that.

His 2nd response indicated they have not only put WiS on ice, but are now open to changing their approach and plans for WiS to conform more to our expectations while it is on ice. This gives us wiggle room to put forth meaningful suggestions regarding content and tie ins to FiS, W-0P, PI and Dust, and CCP enough time to design, develop, test and implement it.

No time-frame was given, but I'm perfectly fine with this considering this breathing room we've been granted and the liberties we will be taking to open CCP's eyes regarding our desires for WiS in the future.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2505 - 2012-01-13 11:15:51 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
[quote=DeMichael Crimson] i will not pay so others have their fun while i am stuck with pretty muh the same content that interested me for three years but not any longer.

Please remove my name from that quote, I never made that statement and at a glance it looks like I was the one who made that statement.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2506 - 2012-01-13 14:07:29 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
[quote=DeMichael Crimson] i will not pay so others have their fun while i am stuck with pretty muh the same content that interested me for three years but not any longer.


time to unsub so, EVE is sand box, you make of it what you will. you have a limited imagination, this is not the other players fault.

also,, you are paying so you can play,, not so others can.

go have a read of the amount of content the game has seen come into it over the last 3 years.

undock dude, leave the system you hang around in, do something beyond what you do already.

if you are still bored, back to what i said at the start, time to unsub so.


Imagination? You should try to read this thread, and let's see how well CCP meets the imagination of its players... Lol

Also, every sandbox allows you to do everything that is allowed by the rules and the sand someone puts in it. And guess what? I don't like the sand that is supposed to keep me interested and subbed (nullsec, griefing, PvP... bleahWhat?), and also the rules don't allow me to do as my imagination goes (FAI, bountyhunters with a license to biomass offenders... now that would clean up EVE of griefers... Twisted).

Oh, wait a minute: maybe you mean that I must use my imagination to see how I can get fun from within EVE's limitations? Already did so for three years. Now it is not fun anymore. And CCP is going to spend the year doing the same as with Crucible, which meant zero gameplay (= zero extra fun) for people like me.

With zero extra fun, I am going to pay zero extra euros.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2507 - 2012-01-13 14:14:57 UTC
What kind of new gameplay you wish them to introduce?

I personally prefer emergent gameplay, playing with other players and creating my own projects. PvE content is by nature rather boring.

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Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#2508 - 2012-01-13 14:29:37 UTC
Roime wrote:
What kind of new gameplay you wish them to introduce?

I personally prefer emergent gameplay, playing with other players and creating my own projects. PvE content is by nature rather boring.


Thats because PvE = players playing with NPCs.

And there is more possibilities with PvP where the emphasis is not killing each other. Stimulate inter-player content from an economical or social perspective, without the need for weapons.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Xuko Nuki
Heralds of Darkness
White Sky.
#2509 - 2012-01-13 14:42:09 UTC
I hope CCP are planning on implementing sandbox elements of WiS. But I wouldn't be surprised if we get scripted PVE Incarna environments and more NeX.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2510 - 2012-01-13 14:48:03 UTC
Roime wrote:
What kind of new gameplay you wish them to introduce?

I personally prefer emergent gameplay, playing with other players and creating my own projects. PvE content is by nature rather boring.


Look at the topic of this thread. See much PvE in it? There you have your answer.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2511 - 2012-01-13 14:48:58 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
[quote=Roime]What kind of new gameplay you wish them to introduce?
Stimulate inter-player content from an economical or social perspective, without the need for weapons.


While you can already combine forces with those who are more eager for combat, I see your point and it tickles the imagination.

Yeah, there is probably a lot of unexplored potential in the non-combat side of Eve universe. More stuff to do with planets, stations etc.

Still I don't feel like Crucible was lacking in content.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2512 - 2012-01-13 14:52:30 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Roime wrote:
What kind of new gameplay you wish them to introduce?

I personally prefer emergent gameplay, playing with other players and creating my own projects. PvE content is by nature rather boring.


Look at the topic of this thread. See much PvE in it? There you have your answer.


So instead of answering with your wishes and dreams, you vaguely point me to a simple question directed at the devs, that has already been answered as well?

(as a disclaimer, I think I've already commented in this thread that WiS is interesting and I hope to experience it one day, I'm not anti-wis or pro-fis or such)

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2513 - 2012-01-13 14:53:44 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Roime wrote:
What kind of new gameplay you wish them to introduce?

I personally prefer emergent gameplay, playing with other players and creating my own projects. PvE content is by nature rather boring.


Thats because PvE = players playing with NPCs.

And there is more possibilities with PvP where the emphasis is not killing each other. Stimulate inter-player content from an economical or social perspective, without the need for weapons.


PaP, Players along Players, is full of possibilities, many more than PgP (Players griefing Players). WiS could be a griefing free activity while leaving the whole bloody rest of the game open to the unconsequential griefing that it's the trademark for EVE.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2514 - 2012-01-13 14:58:03 UTC
Roime wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Roime wrote:
What kind of new gameplay you wish them to introduce?

I personally prefer emergent gameplay, playing with other players and creating my own projects. PvE content is by nature rather boring.


Look at the topic of this thread. See much PvE in it? There you have your answer.


So instead of answering with your wishes and dreams, you vaguely point me to a simple question directed at the devs, that has already been answered as well?

(as a disclaimer, I think I've already commented in this thread that WiS is interesting and I hope to experience it one day, I'm not anti-wis or pro-fis or such)


Why are you so interested with me?

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2515 - 2012-01-13 15:00:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
PaP, Players along Players, is full of possibilities, many more than PgP (Players griefing Players). WiS could be a griefing free activity while leaving the whole bloody rest of the game open to the unconsequential griefing that it's the trademark for EVE.


I don't really agree with griefing being a trademark of EVE, does such thing even happen? Some players prey on the herbivores, but that is vital for the balance of an ecosystem like New Eden.

I think the trademark of EVE is freedom- success is up to every player.

Quote:
Why are you so interested with me?


I'm interested in your opinions for the sake of discussion.

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Strike Severasse
#2516 - 2012-01-13 15:32:02 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
WiS so far was a good tech framework.
It completely lacked gameplay. There was no reason for the captain's closet to exist in gameplay terms.
...


Yes to WIS and with some gameplay!!

I was actually looking forward to WiS, interaction, yes.... then we got sitting alone in a CQ.... a useless waste of time and resources. Dont launch a feature without a reason to use it. Eve is not about looking at ourselves in a mirror... NOPE.

Gameplay ideas.. all to many

- look outside the station for station campers
- common lounge for when not flying.... easier to talk to corp members (yeah add some stats, relevant kill-boards, news etc)
- POS management should be done in the POS


** Keep it simple so more development time is spent on FiS.. and if its not gameplay related, then don't even bother with any time.

like 90% FIS, 10% WiS

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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#2517 - 2012-01-13 16:45:17 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
[quote=DeMichael Crimson] i will not pay so others have their fun while i am stuck with pretty muh the same content that interested me for three years but not any longer.


time to unsub so, EVE is sand box, you make of it what you will. you have a limited imagination, this is not the other players fault.

also,, you are paying so you can play,, not so others can.

go have a read of the amount of content the game has seen come into it over the last 3 years.

undock dude, leave the system you hang around in, do something beyond what you do already.

if you are still bored, back to what i said at the start, time to unsub so.


Imagination? You should try to read this thread, and let's see how well CCP meets the imagination of its players... Lol

Also, every sandbox allows you to do everything that is allowed by the rules and the sand someone puts in it. And guess what? I don't like the sand that is supposed to keep me interested and subbed (nullsec, griefing, PvP... bleahWhat?), and also the rules don't allow me to do as my imagination goes (FAI, bountyhunters with a license to biomass offenders... now that would clean up EVE of griefers... Twisted).

Oh, wait a minute: maybe you mean that I must use my imagination to see how I can get fun from within EVE's limitations? Already did so for three years. Now it is not fun anymore. And CCP is going to spend the year doing the same as with Crucible, which meant zero gameplay (= zero extra fun) for people like me.

With zero extra fun, I am going to pay zero extra euros.



i already gave you my answer,, unsub bye bye don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

only an idiot pays for something they don't like.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2518 - 2012-01-13 16:56:25 UTC
Trust, you appear to be posting in the wrong thread... What point do you wish to make?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#2519 - 2012-01-13 16:56:38 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
[quote=DeMichael Crimson] i will not pay so others have their fun while i am stuck with pretty muh the same content that interested me for three years but not any longer.

Please remove my name from that quote, I never made that statement and at a glance it looks like I was the one who made that statement.



done ,, sorry for that
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2520 - 2012-01-13 16:56:57 UTC
well ,the trolls were right about 1 thing:

a lot of proWIS people will not be content with any answer given then WISdevelopment is on full force again

When the fail expansion Incarna came ,it was obvious that WIS had a long way to go ,to be meaningful for this game
So we had to be patient anyway

For the people who already loved EVE,but want WIS,we need patience
For the people joining EVE only for WIS, be patient or leave

That said ,there is a limit to patience,but i will give it one more try


R.S.I2014