EVE General Discussion

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Glad I could amuse you, miss 2008 player.

1) Of course, I was not saying they were just begging me to return. I have received many "please come back" offers in the past as well, the timing was pretty hilarious because I got my latest round almost immediately after Hilmar's "apology" letter. I also did not rage quit, I voted with my wallet when my sub(s) expired because CCP no longer provided me with a level of service I found to be worth what I was spending after 4 years of waiting for an improvement to their haphazard half-finished releases because they were not allocating sufficient Dev resources to EVE's core gameplay. I recommend that anyone who is similarly dissatisfied consider unsubbing as an option other than crying, foot-stamping and making demands in the forums. Sometimes this is the only way to drive a point home to an organization that is not providing goods or services of acceptable or advertised quality.

2) We were always told WIS would be optional, and yet we were forced into an :awesome: unpolished/unfinished CQ. Only after numerous players complaining about overheating and overtaxed computers did they make good on making it optional, but in my case I was already gone.

In RE: to the cash shop, no, we were not "forced" into that as implied by my post, but it was definitely an unwanted and unnecessary waste of dev resources and a thinly veiled cash-grab by a desperate company that had overextended its resources. The NeX failed miserably and is still (IMHO) a tremendous waste of Dev resources unless they start listening to what the players want vs. what some beancounters and marketing people want.. As far as your blackmail/extortion bit, you must have me confused with someone else, or you feel superior in some way and need to stroke your own ego.

3) I am not a goon or a "testie", never have been, nor do I associate with basement dwelling neckbeards as you are implying. Nice try at that ad hominem though, it seems to be all that's left in the pro-WIS arsenal these days.

+1 for not crying about not getting an answer in your post or bitching that CCP is ignoring you.

There may be some (justifiable) truth in this.

One of the main things that leads some people to completely be turned off by WIS content is that so far it seems to be geared to totally safe area's of game play. No combat, little chance for competitive game play options of any type... somewhat atypical for the EVE universe.

This would need to be addressed to have a reasonable chance of getting support from a wide cross section of the community again.

Perhaps in station environments should be broken up like the area's of space in EVE are, with high and low area's of security (and game play options available), with those area's varying somewhat depending on what area of space they happen to be in.

This would have to be handled with a delicate hand, as being docked has always denoted nearly complete safety in the past... but for WIS to gain the wide spread appeal that it needs this concept needs to evolve in a way that provides content to those that want to keep that safety and also to those that crave conflict.

And please, lets keep the trolling on both sides to a minimum if possible.

Right because we certainly wouldn't be able to find a way to mess with people in an avatar based game... :cripes:
You guys are looking way too hard for reasons why we are against WiS. It's really as simple as we don't want to see the internet spaceship game we enjoy playing fail. Luckily the majority of Eve players agree with us.

You're wrong about some of the more...enthusiastic WiS proponents. They do want more WiS nonsense instead of more Eve content.

No it's not. The reason I use the term "real Eve content" is because back when CCP was still in crazy mode they kept insisting that there was WiS (walking in stations) content and FiS (flying in space) content. After wasting two years ignoring FiS and thousands of people canceling their accounts they woke up to the fact that FiS is what the players want. The success of the crucible expansion and the fact that people aren't leaving the game in droves any longer backs that up.

Why does CCP owe you this information? They have stated in multiple places that WiS isn't dead...just on the backburner while they get things straightened out. You guys aren't able to accept this information and be reasonable about so why do you think CCP is going to come here and take the inevitable abuse?

I'm surprised they haven't locked the thread since the OP's initial question has been answered but they are probably afraid doing so would send some of the more fragile members of the community over the edge.

You are 100% wrong.

We pay a monthly fee and the only thing CCP owes us is access to the game for the amount of time we pay for. For our subscription fee we aren't owed any future development and anybody who expects it is dumb.

The people who rioted and canceled their accounts were sending a message that if CCP continued to waste time on WiS nonsense that they weren't going to continue to pay every month for access to the game. Fortunately there were enough people that did this that it finally made CCP wake up and change direction.

Lol. Good call.

Though I should point out that finding the holes in Ladies rhetoric is pretty easy.

How is that any different then the letdown to FIS players who have been paying CCP a sub for several years to build EVE the serious internet spaceship game and complete the features they only half-finished while most of the company's resources were diverted during that time to fund WIS/WOD and DUST?