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That's not the spirit at all. You have to fight for WiS. If you don't, who will? CCP won't care if nobody is voicing their opinions.

HAI NCDOT

It's relatively common in these forums-and EVE for that matter-for the few to ruin it for the many; simply because they just don't stop pushing, biting, kicking, and screaming until they've had their way or thoroughly squashed any attempts at resistance.

Consider the events of last year and how a few 1000, changed the future of the game for a few hundred thousand. Whether all those would disagree or not is irrelevent; haters gonna hate.

I've been in more than a few threads these past few days where the majority count of posts are between 2-3 people; completely derailing any discussion, and resulting in people bypassing the threads due to either inability to see the content/discussion there, or for fear of becoming involved in an escalating forum PvP match.

In one at least, the majority poster went so far as to derail conversation, rundown ideas, and harass the OP with various namecalling, facebiting, and other maniacle activity.

Why should here be any different?

And i am happy that civilized western lifestyle coming to an end. Priorities..
EVE is an game. Being happy that someone else done something regardless of you is good, but pointless.

Someday, CCP will finish Incarna.

Then I will have a very public "in your face" tirade around the forums for all WiS haters to see.

Then CCP will start working on W0P and take WiS further. And then the FiS tears will feed me for the rest of eternity, keeping me young and full of joy.

I'm sure *that* is the compelling argument that will get CCP to change their minds. :cripes:

After reviewing this thread, I and the majority of other players responding to your posted replies have always stooped DOWN to your level. Never once have you tried to view the issue of WiS content with a neutral perspective.

Quite a few times you've stated that if someone could show you some sort of WiS content other than NPC lap dances, you would stop with the negative posting. I and a few others have posted plenty of ideas for WiS content that doesn't include doing a Fashion Show. Of course you just ignored it and continued with your negative posting.

You can hope, rant and rave all you want, CCP will not remove WiS. Like it or not, in the future CCP will add more WiS based content into the game..




You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. I like the idea of being able to do FPS action available through WiS content which has nothing to do with playing 'Barbie Dress Up'.

I looked at the thread you linked and the majority of the options listed in it are mainly re-balancing and bug fixes. Only a couple of the items listed would incorporate new game content.

I was bored and actualy counted them. At the moment there are 21 posters wanting incarna related content of about 142 relevant people posting in that thread. That means we have a support of 14,79% of Incarna/WiS related content for the summer expansion. Assuming that there are about 300.000 accounts that would be about 44.000 people in favor of some WiS love in summer. I have looked at the thread some days ago and this numbers havn't changed much.
No, of course this isn't a majority but I never argued that a majority wants WiS content. But it is a significant number of people. We can safely assume that the number of supporters after those other changes people are asking for are implemented will be higher. We can also very safely assume that a higher number of people are neutral and may lean towards WiS once it is implemented right.

But as you have shown me now you are not interested in those numbers, right? You are just offended by some supposed "dudes" who like to "dress up" virtual avatars and "emoting with each other". I think your attitude towards other peoples interests and preferences should be "shitcanned". Don't you have some witches to burn instead posting nonsense here?

Thanks for your double "selfowned" .



That is so true. Many of the WiS haters challanged us to give examples of possible WiS gameplay and ideas how it wouldn't suck or how it wouldn't just be some shallow thing. It is their good right to do that and I like them bringing up that point. Because WiS should add something to the gameplay even for the ones who are not convinced by the social gaming argument.
I read a lot of gameplay ideas in this thread, some good and some bad. But they are either ignored by our three personal WiS stalkers here or they are just called out "bullshit".
What you (I mean you haters!) are doing is just negativ posting without much substance or arguments. See, you do have some valid arguments and some of us are even trying to argue with you. But I think we made a mistake, because we all know how "arguing in the internet" works...


Edit: Sorry, for some reason I couldn't quote the link in the first quote, the forum kept having issues with the BBCode.

But have any of you even explored the reasons why I don't think WiS belong in EVE?

Oh? Have you now? All I have read is basically the repetition of the same message: Why it is needed. If you have, I apologize, it frankly disappeared as white noise.

CCP didn't sell me the concept at its infancy because if I want to socialize, I get off the computer and hang with real people, at a real pub, in the real world.

And I don't want them to remove it, believe me. I want CCP to continue using it as a testbed for when they release WoD so they can pour all that WiS-content in there and you happily can do your fashion shows or /emote together with your friends.

yeah, demichael that thread is mostly fixes/releases and? what are you implying, still need to be fixed
also you will not get FPS combat in wis, it's called dust why would ccp cannibalize
and if they did include combat in stations it would be extremely gimped
99% of ppl will be chilling at some 100% gank proof area 99% of the time o7m8ing away /dancing whatever

ccp is greedy and they like money, they would only give new stuff, ie a a radically new "game-mode" to people that will pay for it,
eg. WOD: avatar playing, paid by its own $15 subscribers + $60 disc in a box if and when it comes out
FPS gameplay, paid for by ps3 dudes and initial $60 disc in a box and sony points crap if and when it comes out

now you wis lover think that there is unlimited potential in wis, all for your current $15 worth of eve sub payments, or plex
how god damn gullible can you be? you think dev resources grow on trees? and you can o7m8 your way to profits?

i am sick of hearing the OP's "eve is a sci-fi simulator" line, god you are gullible, because you fell for the marketing copy, ccp hired some fancy mad men agency and they came up with that line, do you eat mcdonalds like "you're lovin' it?"

and the fools that feel that wis is more than DUDES DRESSING UP /EMOTING EACH OTHER, that wis is important, has potential, is a new direction, would be might be cool i am telling you NO, wis it's a bolt-on, a rig, like putting a energy weapons rigs to improve laser damage on a rifter

wis exists only to sell some MT vanity crap, will not be iterated beyond a stupid YMCA /emote bar and grill, unless you dudes all go out and buy a fuckton of aurems and that is the honest to christ truth