Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Except it's not unbalanced, really. You're just being dishonest. For a start, you say they can move around freely throughout a system without any danger - this is untrue. They are not immune to bubbles and camps. You know where they're likely to visit in system, be it your tower or the gates, so set up bubbles with people in them and drones out. He'll get decloaked rather quickly if he tries to move about in system.

Additionally, you refuse to acknowledge the otherside of the issue - namely that while he is doing this, sitting or even moving around cloaked, he is incapable of doing anything to you. He cannot light a cyno, or kill you himself, or do anything other than watch while he is cloaked. So while he may be difficult to catch, what he can accomplish in that state is extremely limited.

He can't cyno while he's cloaked, and if you have a problem with cynos then take it up in a thread about cyno mechanics - that's nothing to do with cloaks, friend.



Why do you say "only" defense if you then go on to list three? You missed a few, too - for example, you can simply move system. You can also ignore him and get on with your life. You can also get a small group of people together when you rat or PVE or whatever, and do it as a group, which makes you much much safer (and much less of a desirable target). Also you're deliberately overstating the effort you need to put in, a 23/7 camp and 200+ man fleet sitting on a titan is not necessary for home defense. Don't be silly.

So you have a number of options available to you, so I don't understand why you're crying that you're so limited by his presence. He's is not forcing your hand in any way. Your own cowardly risk averse play, or your corp/alliances inability to properly handle the area of space you chose to live in are what are at play here, not cloak mechanics.

Anyway, why the hell SHOULDN'T you have to put in some effort to live in nullsec? Whether it's being in a group, baiting, whatever, it is perfectly reasonable that you should have to do these things to live in nullsec. If you can't secure your space through your own (and alliances) efforts, then you don't deserve the rewards.



Except it is still a massive nerf to active cloakers. I can be stationary in one position and still be very much active, whether I'm setting up warp in points, or observing movements, or sitting in position in a bomber fleet, or any number of other things - your terrible awful idea destroys these active forms of play, and you bloody well know it. Stop being dishonest.

Like I've said before in other threads about cloaks, the insistence that it is to combat "afk" players is such an obvious, dishonest attempt to deflect from the real issue, because EVERY SINGLE TIME it results in things that are massive, massive nerfs to active players too.

The truth is, afk or not has nothing to do with it. Your problem is that a cloaked player represents an unknown level of threat. Maybe he's none because he's afk, or maybe he's a small threat - a solo hunter, perhaps, or maybe he's a huge threat with a 200 man fleet ready to jump in. The fact that you don't know which is what drives you so crazy, and what makes you so mad. The idea that you might have to make some decisions yourself without perfect, absolute knowledge just isn't acceptable, is it mate?

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