EVE General Discussion

Why again this stupid idea...

The op is prolly the new hire of ccp

You know that Guildwars 2 is dieing ??
Aswell as most of the free2play games out there.
The free2play model is not that attractive anymore, as it was in the beginning. Now there are just too much of them.


Subscribtion model is the future.

No, go away.

I fully support this!

Cmon' guys n gals, I think We should support CCP!! They bring us great game and we shall support them!


I cant get this, why so many of you have no support for them? You do understand, that moar money they make, the moar content, support etc we get? And everyone is happy?

Are you all really that greedy, that you cant spent 60-80 bucks per year?

That's because other games are about content consumption, whereas EVE is about content generation. As a side-effect, nothing other games do really have any bearing on how expansions work in EVE. For instance, Retribution was one the biggest content patches EVE has had in ages, but if you run on the incorrect assumption that “expansion” = “more stuff”, then you would miss this fact.

This is why one eve expansion = many many years of expansions for those other games: because the developers of those games have to waste all that time thinking up new stuff for people to consume, rather than alter the game to provide huge amounts of new gameplay.

…and that is, once again, why EVE can't have paid-for expansions: because the tools and the gameplay need to be the same for everyone, so the expansions must be mandatory, so you might as well roll the cost up in the subscription.

You of course some how managed to miss the comment at 0:49(ish) "someone still has to buy that plex and inject it into the system" but of course since it doesn't support your argument it can be safely ignored.

Please explain why exactly CCP would place plex on the market that has not already been payed for by a player. I'd be interested to hear your explanation for a behaviour that would be contrary to their financial wellbeing.

Posting in stealth "Hi, I am Sean Decker" thread.

For the love of... stop this sarcastic **** and accept it.

Yes EVERY SINGLE ONE OF EVERY PLEX EVER IN EXISTENCE WAS BOUGHT BUY REAL MONEY BY SOMEONE.

Here's a run down on how we can tell. Every NPC sell order for anything, be it skills, blueprints, etc have an expiration time of 365 days or similar. This makes then very clearly NPC order as players are only capable of creating orders of 3 months (90 days, 89 days and some change usually being what we see).

There are no NPC sell orders for PLEXes and there never was. There is no where that PLEX can come out of thin air unless a dev were to hack into his own secret playing character.

The problem with the logic of there ever being game-generated PLEX is that every single one would be losing CCP money. It's not logical for them want to ever enable such a thing.

The only exception to every PLEX being paid for is the few events where CCP gives them away as prizes. But these hardly effect the economy much as they tend to throw only 20 or so into an economy of 1,000s of PLEXes.

So no, no one in EVE plays for free except maybe some marketing genius that lives off of buddy invites every month haha.

As for the base of the topic, the expansion part, I refer you back to Tippia's post. We're better off having CCP do it as is. Cutting people off with expansions would be terrible for PR and would drop users by 1000s. If you intend on CCP making the rest of the game free to play and charging JUST for the expansions then you end up running them into the ground unless every expansion is $50, which again, would cause riots.

You also have to consider the effect on the economy this would have. If you ever make EVE free to play then you will inevitably get an influx of players. When you do that you end up with more saturated markets in pretty much every category. You slowly increase inflation as more people run missions and go ratting.