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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#121 - 2013-07-03 17:53:57 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
-Awesomeness-


I just today noticed your signature.

It makes me all warm and gooey inside.

Not as warm and gooey as OP will be after he's dragged kicking and screaming to lowsec and dissolved in a drum of acid, but warm and gooey just the same.

Since this thread is obviously about nothing important, I propose we alter it to include human sacrifice and lesbian pod goo catfights.




Now the rights to watch that will definitely cost $$$$$

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Arkenai Wyrnspire
Incorruptibles
#122 - 2013-07-03 17:54:09 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Expansions should cost $


They already do, it costs $15/mo.


Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free.

Straight
You don't understand PLEX.

Someone.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#123 - 2013-07-03 17:57:15 UTC
Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Expansions should cost $


They already do, it costs $15/mo.


Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free.

Straight
You don't understand PLEX.



Not your fault, but you are getting sloppy seconds with that line of argument

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Obunagawe
#124 - 2013-07-03 17:58:02 UTC
I'll only buy up to Dominion expansion on my SC chars and enjoy SC as they were meant to be.

Pre-nerf titans sounds good too. I'll buy those accounts up to Dominion as well.

And to make money I'll leave a bunch of button-orbiting alts in Inferno.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#125 - 2013-07-03 18:09:27 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
I'll only buy up to Dominion expansion on my SC chars and enjoy SC as they were meant to be.

Pre-nerf titans sounds good too. I'll buy those accounts up to Dominion as well.

And to make money I'll leave a bunch of button-orbiting alts in Inferno.



Shoot, I'd stop at the first one.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#126 - 2013-07-03 18:15:51 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Obunagawe wrote:
I'll only buy up to Dominion expansion on my SC chars and enjoy SC as they were meant to be.

Pre-nerf titans sounds good too. I'll buy those accounts up to Dominion as well.

And to make money I'll leave a bunch of button-orbiting alts in Inferno.



Shoot, I'd stop at the first one.


Confirming OP is a cheap-ass who wouldn't pay for all expansions.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#127 - 2013-07-03 18:19:35 UTC
Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Expansions should cost $


They already do, it costs $15/mo.


Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free.

Straight
You don't understand PLEX.



ahhh yes, I must have forgotten they are injected into the game only by players. I would hate for these to run out. What then?


FEED ME Big smile
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#128 - 2013-07-03 18:21:32 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Obunagawe wrote:
I'll only buy up to Dominion expansion on my SC chars and enjoy SC as they were meant to be.

Pre-nerf titans sounds good too. I'll buy those accounts up to Dominion as well.

And to make money I'll leave a bunch of button-orbiting alts in Inferno.



Shoot, I'd stop at the first one.


Confirming OP is a cheap-ass who wouldn't pay for all expansions.



Because that is the concept behind paid expansions. lolWhat?
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#129 - 2013-07-03 18:25:21 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:


Because that is the concept behind paid expansions. lolWhat?


P3ps1 Max wrote:

To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.Cool


Seems to me that the idea of selling expansions as a business model would be to make money. You don't make money under such a business model by not selling as many as possible.

Have you confused even yourself with your nonsensical line of crap?
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#130 - 2013-07-03 18:27:48 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Expansions should cost $


They already do, it costs $15/mo.


Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free.

Straight
You don't understand PLEX.



ahhh yes, I must have forgotten they are injected into the game only by players. I would hate for these to run out. What then?


FEED ME Big smile



I have spare food today.

Yes, you have forgotten that.

But, mostly you have forgotten that for a lot of people $15 for 550m is not a bad trade, or even 5.5bn for $150 (Even better deals when they have the plex sales "Buy 30 plex for X"

Here is what happens if people stop injecting plex into the game:

Price of plex rises, due to lack of supply.
As it increases, more people go "WTF, I can get 800m for $15...."
CCP release some of the plex from banned accounts (Again, paid for by someone at some point)
Prices go down faster than Sov after an accidental misclick

People go "WTF, only 400m for $15, screw that"

Prices go back up.

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
#131 - 2013-07-03 18:27:57 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Since this thread is obviously about nothing important, I propose we alter it to include human sacrifice and lesbian pod goo catfights.


Heh, lesbians I know would help each other climb out of said pod-goo, kick you in the balls, roll you for your wallet, and stroll out of the room hand-in-hand singing Kumbayah. But who am I to judge your fantasy?

Now, human sacrifice? Low sec. See it every day.

Big smile

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#132 - 2013-07-03 18:40:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
P3ps1 Max wrote:
I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year Question

A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia .

To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.Cool





GW2 is crap I won't say I saw evidence of it being successful when I played it. Although they don't have accounts closing, but that's only because there are no subscriptions. With GW2 you also neglect to mention you have to pay initially for the game itself and likely any major expansions. You also neglect to mention that they sell gems that you can buy like PLEX in order to sell on the market for in-game gold


As for paying expansions, just no. Most of EVE's expansion aren't worth paying for anyway other than with the normal subscriptions.



Edit: One other thing about GW2, they make it harder to make in-game gold so that you will be tempted to buy gold in-game via gems which you purchase from them.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#133 - 2013-07-03 18:43:26 UTC
In this thread someone that believes "Minerals are free if you mine them and people play for FREE because they use PLEX" ...

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#134 - 2013-07-03 18:44:08 UTC
0/10

Stop feeding him.
Arec Bardwin
#135 - 2013-07-03 18:56:24 UTC
This thread should easily be (t)rolling into page 8. Congrats OP.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#136 - 2013-07-03 18:56:40 UTC
Shaera Taam wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Since this thread is obviously about nothing important, I propose we alter it to include human sacrifice and lesbian pod goo catfights.


Heh, lesbians I know would help each other climb out of said pod-goo, kick you in the balls, roll you for your wallet, and stroll out of the room hand-in-hand singing Kumbayah. But who am I to judge your fantasy?

Now, human sacrifice? Low sec. See it every day.

Big smile




No one will pay isk to see lesbians being helpful to one another.

More people to be dissolved in acid.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#137 - 2013-07-03 18:58:15 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:


More people to be dissolved in acid.



Now now


If you get too eager, you may kill them due to shock

before they are more than





40%

Liquidised






MMmmhhmmmm

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#138 - 2013-07-03 19:16:05 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:


More people to be dissolved in acid.



Now now


If you get too eager, you may kill them due to shock

before they are more than





40%

Liquidised






MMmmhhmmmm


Sorry, Ms. McCandless. I get carried away sometimes.
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#139 - 2013-07-03 19:19:30 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year Question

A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia .

To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.Cool


The problem with asking money for an expansion is that players wont be able to play without this expansion.
This is unlike other mmo's so far as i know where you are able to play the game, just not the content which is released with the expansion.

The current business model is a very good one and one alot of mmo developer wish they could copy.
You basicly already have a free to play game for people who play alot and make the money but also habe a subscription option.
This without the downside of a pay to win factor which you see in other games.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#140 - 2013-07-03 19:20:47 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:

Sorry, Ms. McCandless. I get carried away sometimes.



Its ok, there are always a few "practise models"



We like to call them







"children"

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann