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Expansions should cost $

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SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#101 - 2013-07-03 16:40:36 UTC
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
Fifteen Bucks, are the People really that poor or just greedy?



That's what I was wondering. There's a trial to see if you like it and the sub price is very low. Why do these shitheels think this needs to change? What's wrong with how it works now? I'm sorry your friends don't make enough mowing lawns or their parents drink too much to afford it but them's the breaks.

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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2013-07-03 16:42:09 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Expansions should cost $


They already do, it costs $15/mo.


Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. But then you have new players with a high turnover ratio paying the bills.

To me this would give CCP greater revenue while providing larger content to its players. More content is a win win for everyone.



PLEX ARNT OF THIN AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOmbody paid for sombody else so called "free" game time



^^ Exactly

OP you need to think about this a bit more. If 550k subscribers are broken into two groups:

Group 1: Pays with PLEX they bought on Amazon, another retailer or from the PLEX store.

Group 2: Pays with PLEX they bought with ISK.

All subs are payed with PLEX!

CCP receives revenue from PLEX, and Aurum purchases. That is all.

Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#103 - 2013-07-03 16:42:38 UTC
SmokinDank wrote:
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
Fifteen Bucks, are the People really that poor or just greedy?



That's what I was wondering. There's a trial to see if you like it and the sub price is very low. Why do these shitheels think this needs to change? What's wrong with how it works now? I'm sorry your friends don't make enough mowing lawns or their parents drink too much to afford it but them's the breaks.



What are you talking about?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2013-07-03 16:45:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Elvis Fett
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:

Bf3 and bf4 for me Cool


So... Battlefield after it was totally ruined with DLC


That explains a lot


What exactly was ruined by the DLC you didn't need to buy?

You could also buy them all in a few month of eve subs and then be done and never have to pay a dime over it.


How about the community. I payed $60 for a game, and now I need to pay another $60 to have the same maps so I can play with my friends. Splitting communities into those that have map pack A, and those that have map pack B, and those that have A and B and those that have none, prevents people from playing with friends unless they want to fork over more cash.

Or how about being bombarded with advertisements? Do I really need to see that the person that killed me was a 'premium' player, and does it need to be in massive writing (no it doesn't since it doesn't need to be there at all.). Also the massive premium advertisements at the main menu are an eye sore.

Or how about the quality of the game, because that got ruined by the 'optional' dlc. BF3 had day 0 DLC, they waited a month or two to release Back To Karkland but I guarantee you it was ready or near ready at launch. So instead of having Devs work on the broken VoIP (in console version), or more maps/weapons for the release, they wasted resources creating addition pay content instead of fixing the content that I already paid for.

Once apon a time map packs were free, regardless if they were created by the community or the company. Now days FPS don't even allow community created maps, I guess it takes away from their profits for their overpriced map packs.
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#105 - 2013-07-03 16:48:32 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
SmokinDank wrote:
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
Fifteen Bucks, are the People really that poor or just greedy?



That's what I was wondering. There's a trial to see if you like it and the sub price is very low. Why do these shitheels think this needs to change? What's wrong with how it works now? I'm sorry your friends don't make enough mowing lawns or their parents drink too much to afford it but them's the breaks.



What are you talking about?


Simply wondering why people think the payment model needs to change. There's options that exist that are more than sufficient.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2013-07-03 16:50:18 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:

But to clear up one misconception. Some plex out there were NOT paid for by players. Prizes from tourneys, bonuses for recruiting new players leap to mind,


Statistically speaking that number is so small it can be considered to be 0.


Is it bad ju-ju to say things about the quality of CSM posts?


Not in relation to what you said, just asking you


Probably, but I have some karma I need to burn off anyway.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#107 - 2013-07-03 16:52:06 UTC
SmokinDank wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
SmokinDank wrote:
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
Fifteen Bucks, are the People really that poor or just greedy?



That's what I was wondering. There's a trial to see if you like it and the sub price is very low. Why do these shitheels think this needs to change? What's wrong with how it works now? I'm sorry your friends don't make enough mowing lawns or their parents drink too much to afford it but them's the breaks.



What are you talking about?


Simply wondering why people think the payment model needs to change. There's options that exist that are more than sufficient.



Oh I see

I didn't think that's what the OP meant as such

I thought he meant the payment model should be

£35 + £10 month + £30 per expansion


Which is obviously INSHHHHHHAAANNNNNNEEE

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#108 - 2013-07-03 16:52:41 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:


Probably, but I have some karma I need to burn off anyway.



Heh


I was just wondering as that CSM rep called us all


Brian Cants

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Contagion
Infestation Inc
#109 - 2013-07-03 17:00:06 UTC
Pay via plex if you want f2p. Unless you have no isk then pay. The model works very well. Why change it?
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#110 - 2013-07-03 17:00:19 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Intar Medris wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year Question

A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia .

To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.Cool

Go back to back to WOW.



Go back to your cave. Constructive feedback please.


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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#111 - 2013-07-03 17:04:09 UTC
Since I'm late and the whole “OP doesn't understand PLEX” part seems played out, I'll just say this: expansions can't cost money because everyone must have access to the same content in a single interconnected and continuous universe. They have to be mandatory for everyone, at which point you might as well roll them up in the cost of the subscription…

…which is what they've done.

/thread
C DeLeon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#112 - 2013-07-03 17:09:12 UTC
The current system worked for 10 years. Let's change it!
Istyn
Freight Club
#113 - 2013-07-03 17:11:03 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Since I'm late and the whole “OP doesn't understand PLEX” part seems played out, I'll just say this: expansions can't cost money because everyone must have access to the same content in a single interconnected and continuous universe. They have to be mandatory for everyone, at which point you might as well roll them up in the cost of the subscription…

…which is what they've done.

/thread


Your logic isn't welcome here.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2013-07-03 17:13:18 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Since I'm late and the whole “OP doesn't understand PLEX” part seems played out, I'll just say this: expansions can't cost money because everyone must have access to the same content in a single interconnected and continuous universe. They have to be mandatory for everyone, at which point you might as well roll them up in the cost of the subscription…

…which is what they've done.

/thread


You take your heathen logic and return to your pit demon!

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#115 - 2013-07-03 17:15:23 UTC
Istyn wrote:
Your logic isn't welcome here.
De'Veldrin wrote:
You take your heathen logic and return to your pit demon!
I'm backlogged on my soul collection quota, so I'm going to have to stick around for a bit, I'm afraid.
Sorry. Oops
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#116 - 2013-07-03 17:17:13 UTC
OP is so wrong this could only be a dumbass troll thread.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#117 - 2013-07-03 17:24:41 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Istyn wrote:
Your logic isn't welcome here.
De'Veldrin wrote:
You take your heathen logic and return to your pit demon!
I'm backlogged on my soul collection quota, so I'm going to have to stick around for a bit, I'm afraid.
Sorry. Oops


Fine take the OPs and move along. Mine's already consigned. LOL

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#118 - 2013-07-03 17:27:34 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
-Awesomeness-


I just today noticed your signature.

It makes me all warm and gooey inside.

Not as warm and gooey as OP will be after he's dragged kicking and screaming to lowsec and dissolved in a drum of acid, but warm and gooey just the same.

Since this thread is obviously about nothing important, I propose we alter it to include human sacrifice and lesbian pod goo catfights.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#119 - 2013-07-03 17:51:17 UTC
EA alt detected! LOLOLOL TwistedShockedCool.........Ugh

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#120 - 2013-07-03 17:53:56 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year Question

A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia .

To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.Cool

The very next moment people will be forced to pay for this game, it dies. Like all other "dream-bussines" MMO's. Short term hit, money back plus some bucks, and it closes.
Besides, why would one pay for a game wich's dream is player and only player made content, and almost all what a expansion brings is to break already broken toys even more?