Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I don't know if this idea has already been discussed so I will apologize in advance if it has but this is my idea.

Give players (new or old) the ability to earn skill points as a reward for in-game activity's as well as getting the isk reward.
You can scale the amount of points you get based of how difficult the mission is so for example, a level 1 mission gets you 250 SP's upon it's completion as well as getting a few points for each kill during the mission that can also be scaled based off how much that ships bounty was (100k bounty = 10 SP's, 1 million bounty = 100 SP's and so on). The system is already in place to allow you to be gifted unallocated skill points so the technical aspect of this is already in place and would therefore not require too much work to be implemented.

There are several reasons why I believe that this could be a good idea, firstly, it will give a players a good reason to complete PvE missions (we all know they suck so let's not argue about that) as you can advance your character by doing them.
Secondly, it adds immersion as every time you get a kill you learn how to be better at it (most games grant XP for getting kills so why not grant SP's in EVE).
Thirdly, it gives new players a faster route to get into the game while also learning how to play the game at the same time.

Let's face it, most Corporations have a mandatory SP requirement to be allowed to join them (most of the time around the 15-20 million SP mark) yet you can sit in a station for a year and a half to get those skill points without ever killing anything or knowing how to play the game. With this idea it gives new players an incentive to get out and fight and it gives older players a reason to do PvE missions or even null sec ratting (both pretty boring pass times).

Anyway let me know what you think. I honestly believe this could get more players into EVE as it would allow them to speed up the leveling process and get into the fun aspects of the game much quicker.

Thanks for reading.

cant wait for all the recruiting ads that demand perfect gunnery/drones/missile skills for recruitment

Well quitting your job would be a bit of an over-reaction but it'll give you a reason to log in and actually play the game.

here is the reason i log in to play the game: i want to play the game.

The idea has been suggested before. As Daniel snarkily implied, it would turn any time spent not running missions into time you're falling behind everyone else. Giving people additional incentives to do activities they would otherwise find boring is the definition of grinding, and there's no reason to encourage it.

As for getting new players into the game quicker, the answer doesn't lie in SP. There are plenty of activities that can be partaken with low SP, and if another SP faucet was added to the game, the corps with minimums would simply raise them to compensate. Those corps aren't doing noob-friendly activities, anyway.

Well good for you, but think of what it's like for a new player that starts to play the game cause they have heard of all the fun you can have out in null-sec but then realizes that he has to wait for 18 months before he can start to have fun in this game.

here is what you need to do before you can start having fun in this game: log in.

oh all right, i'm done slapping you around. it's like kicking a puppy really.... here is some good advice: you do not need more than a few hundred thousand SP to get into pvp. just buy a cheap frigate, go out there and try to kill someone. much of faction warfare takes place in frigates and most nullsec entities will accept promising newbies. then there are specialized corps like eve university and brave newbies that are explicitly there to help new players get into pvp.
your mind set is tainted by other mmos. you should forget everything you learned and start learning eve from scratch. you will soon notice that this game is interesting and fun on a completely different level.

I never did try out faction warfare, is it just as boring as mission running? Would it be just as boring if you had a real incentive to do it? Would PvP be more interesting if you got a few extra SP's for each kill? How about Ratting? Or Wormhole exploration? The point I am trying to make is give people a reason for doing all that stuff. There are players in this game that already grind like mad to gain anything from isk to loyalty points so where the harm in adding skill points as something you can grind for and actually advance your character at the same time.

Oh and if you think you were 'slapping me around' your gonna have to try a lot harder than that to get a rise out of me.

No.
One of the most evaluable characteristic of EVE is just to have an independant character progression not liked/subordinated to something you do in game.
This is also the base of the freedom EVE give you and a core design.

i'm done with this guy.