Ships & Modules

It is not the point. One can say more than just "we talked." but give an indication such as "We talk about XY and how it is bad, and it went surprisingly good." Or one can say "..., and found resistance."

Let me remind you that the discussion is with people who not only make the game, but who know the game, who love it and play it or have been playing it, and it should be pretty easy to get their position on a topic without making it into a poker table.

If this is not within the powers of the CSM then the CSM is not more than a human teleprompter who is reading the forums to CCP. And frankly would this have little to do with an actual discussion.

So, a little bit more than "we discussed it" would be nice. It is not like Slowcats were invented just yesterday and CCP did not know about it already.

Then I just thank you for reading the forums to CCP. A job well done! We are proud of you.

yes, providing that it's inside your drone control range (and inside the range of the drones themselves, of course)

Not with TSB's running.

Did you even look at the latest incarnation of N3 domis?

Other problems generated. A few drones on assist (we should avoid assign, as that is used for fighters and completely different) is working as intended, specifically in a game that promotes multiaccounting.

1000 sentries on assist are a problem.


So if you'd introduce a penalty, it should be stacked, for example 1% optimal/tracking/speed penalty for every X drones that assist the target caller.


A fix to the target spectrum breaker advantage on drone boats could be, if it auto-abandons drones whenever it successfully breaks a lock on your ship. At least that way some action (reconnect to lost drones) would be required by the pilot now and then.

The CSM's favoured change to assigning drones is to limit assigning to squad members.

I always thought the issue was the slowcat itself, and that it cannot be easily overwhelmed by dps alone.

About sentries in general: The assignment of drones to a targetcaller really solves a lot of organization-issues right away :)

So your mental image of what we do is literally reading out loud forum posts to CCP over VOIP?

When we say "we're talking to CCP" we mean "we're in a chat channel with CCP staff". If we want to call attention to forum discussions, a link is how we do it.

Sounds like a perfect way for FC's to get ahead of that which plagues fleets the most: Minions inability to follow primary calls.

About time some more varied chips were thrown on the table though, was getting a bit boring reading about the incessant artillery alpha crap.

As for CSM - CPP comms, who cares when it has no effect? It took more than two years for CCP to realise that Winmatar was broken, it took them five years to realise that FW was broken and so on .. all cases where CSM were specifically asked to present verifiable facts handed to them on a silver platter .. so is the comms broken, CSM lying through their teeth or CCP more inept than even I give them credit for?
Personally hope it is the former as the alternatives are too horrendous to contemplate

PS: I am assuming that drones get their attributes from their owner even when assigned, ie. that the assignee does not influence anything in the way of range, damage, tracking etc. .. that his only contribution is a pointing finger? If not then holy hell, nerf that **** into the ground!

It doesn't need to apply to flying drones, only sentries. Drone bunnies still work as intended.

There are good reasons to assign flying drones to another ship, so that DPS can focus on DPS and the drone bunny can put all the drones where they need to be. There are no good reasons for farming out sentries from a drone boat, unless you're going AFK. And that's the problem. It's like letting missile boats assign their launchers.

If you wants to shoot, you pushes the button. Or, if you must farm your sentries out, then you take a big hit in combat effectiveness. All they have to do is make that hit just big enough to keep drone boat captains at the wheel. Problem solved.