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CCP Games Announces Former EA Executive Sean Decker as Senior Vice President

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#581 - 2013-07-03 13:52:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Malcanis wrote:


It's a pity you didn't get in touch with CCP and offer to do that nothing for half the salary.


Id do it for free but Im not in the boy's club that dishes out these roles.


Because doing nothing for free is easy, working out how to get paid a five or six figure salary for it is quite different

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#582 - 2013-07-03 13:55:11 UTC
Alaura Aquila wrote:
Caleb Ayrania wrote:


What I think is vital is to have someone like Sean to help figuring out how to market in the current competition.

In short how do CCP get into these markets without breaking their model, the hearts of their playerbase and their investors portfolios.

This is possible and we will get something mindblowing, and postive, but its still ccp they are becoming famous for doing everything drunken-master style.



So, in essence you are saying something like how some firms interested in security will hire people like Kevin Mitnick to help them because he actually did bad things so he would know how to deal with that stuff? I guess that's one way to do it. Oh and Wernher Von Braun and NASA is another good example :)


Pretty much exactly that.

Even more specific. If your trying to develop a competitive novel approach it would be really useful having some guy that knows all the tricks in the current crappy lets Frack our customers and milk them for money without adding value.

The challenge for ccp and Sean is to find out how to add value and create products we actually want. The new shop and recent Collectors Edition launch were good examples, and a PI on android sound pretty potentially like a good product. If many of the virtual ones come with a PLEX buying or rebate option it might not be such a hard sell. Also if we could pay something like 10-25% more for our real shop hoodies and get them ingame mirrored I am sure that would be popular. Hell there are plenty of players getting actual PERMANENT tattoos on their real skin. Would it not be fair to let them PLEX for the same tattoos ingame. HELL that should almost be a demanded feature that CCP offered all the players getting them at Fanfest and other "official" events.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#583 - 2013-07-03 13:57:02 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
]This does not seem at all likely and is also not exactly a real job


It is a real job. It's a producer's job to streamline production. They direct so the others can do their jobs.

Also, CCP needs a community manager like WoW or EQII has, because devs banning or closing threads look b-a-d. When I see that here I see small company, so small the devs that's suppose to be working on stuff are managing forums, instead. That's not what devs are suppose to be doing. Sure post here and there, but not actively managing the forum itself.


Those "devs" are community managers. Roll

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#584 - 2013-07-03 14:01:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Nothing to worry about, his offical position is a non influential human door stop or so some people will have us believe.
Zane Tekitsu
The Munitions Miracle Network
#585 - 2013-07-03 14:06:46 UTC
Melana Emmagan wrote:
Zane Tekitsu wrote:

I find your idea of good C&C disturbing...


My bad, confused TT with TW. That makes at least one horrible, ruined game franchise on his list. If he ever flies around in EVE I might have to pod him after all...


I'm just sorry you thought I was talking about anything after 2000 being C&C...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#586 - 2013-07-03 14:19:25 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Nothing to worry about, his offical position is a non influential human door stop or so some people will have us believe.


Ooooh no

just because he's being paid to have someone polish his beemer



Doesn't mean he won't proffer halfbaked and ruining notions about what improves the "customer experience" and other such vomit-inducing management-speak

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
JD No7
V I R I I
#587 - 2013-07-03 14:21:16 UTC
Agree with most things CCP do but this is ruinous.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#588 - 2013-07-03 14:31:26 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


It's a pity you didn't get in touch with CCP and offer to do that nothing for half the salary.


Id do it for free but Im not in the boy's club that dishes out these roles.


Because doing nothing for free is easy, working out how to get paid a five or six figure salary for it is quite different


Then he must be working pretty hard at doing that
Dominous Nolen
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#589 - 2013-07-03 14:36:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Dominous Nolen
Looking back at the thread someone beat me to this link massively link.

it's an Interesting read, I'd be curious to see what actually comes out having a new view applied to the game

@dominousnolen

"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
Mario Putzo
#590 - 2013-07-03 14:39:38 UTC
As long as he leaves EA at EA I don't see a problem. Oh who am I kidding.


FTP + Micro Transactions

~CCP 2013~
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#591 - 2013-07-03 14:40:36 UTC  |  Edited by: RomeStar
Malcanis wrote:
RomeStar wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
"Flushed with pride"



I would hope you CSM members are vocal about this hire and relay the players concerns that he will turn EVE into a microtranscation themepark. If he does intorduce microtransactions have fun playing by yourself.


Believe me, CCP are well aware that P2W MTs are a bad, bad, bad idea.

And we will remind them.


Thank you sir you have instilled some confidence in me atleast but there is still a doubt that CCP will do the right thing. The first micoT i see that = P2W im gone.

Heres a simple question. Why did he leave EA and come to CCP? Why does anyone leave their current job and go work for a competitor?

Lets look at the most common reasons.

1. Better Pay (This might be a valid reason why he left but why would EA let him go if they are making so much bank off him)

2. The company was not going in the same direction as you. (Now this part scares me alittle, let me explain EA has a bad reputation of nickel and diming their players to death and I think they have realized this and have decided to change their strategy and this sean guy didnt like the road they were going to take, apply tinfoil hat now.)

3. Fired (Maybe he was screwing consumers way too much and EA was starting to get sick of him and their bad reputation he was giving them.)

4. Mintchip is now working for CCP maybe he saw that and said yeah I have to meet her.

Who knows....

Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#592 - 2013-07-03 14:43:41 UTC
Dominous Nolen wrote:
CCP's Sean Decker and Hilmar Petursson on the future of EVE, DUST 514, EVE-VR, and mobile gaming >> http://www.reddit.com/tb/1hk37y

Interesting read,


Why not just link to the story? http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/07/02/ccps-sean-decker-and-hilmar-petursson-on-the-future-of-eve-dus/

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Zacoros Tandar
Doomheim
#593 - 2013-07-03 14:56:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Zacoros Tandar
So, do ya'll really think that means things like a new ship skin (paint job), and those arm tattoos someone found on the test server, things like that... nice things, will be micro-transactions?

In the article he used the example of the dual-training, well that costs a plex, and there is nothing micro about the cost of a plex, in real money or in game. That would be a macro-transaction + a monthly sub.

Why can the players not create the paint jobs, get the blueprints from wherever blueprints come from, and make them with PI materials or something, then sell them on the market.

Why must we potentially pay more real money when we already pay a subscription. It is wrong.


"I see the world as a micro-transaction" - Sean Decker, CCP Games - Senior Vice President of Product Development.
Dominous Nolen
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#594 - 2013-07-03 15:00:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Dominous Nolen
Malcanis wrote:


Why not just link to the story?


My bad, just grabbed the link I was following.

@dominousnolen

"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#595 - 2013-07-03 15:00:20 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Can some one tell me what his job actually involves?


Basically he's doing what was Hilmar's job.


I don't know what that was either, sorry

So what is the pecking order at CCP?

At times, it seems Soundwave calls the shots.

Grayscale seems to do his own alterations and changes with a carte blanche stance. I don't like this so...

There are all these little groups that may or may not get something included during one of the various expansions or patches - Team Avatar comes to mind.

One of the minute notes from a recent CSM meeting seem that CCP hired another - forgot the name, but brought up the aspect of "theme expansions" as directing the future of Eve.

Hilmar was overseeing the direction but now brought in a Vice President to do that task...?

Perhaps CCP's laid back corporate stance will become a rigid order.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#596 - 2013-07-03 15:01:34 UTC
Zacoros Tandar wrote:


"I see the world as a micro-transaction" - Sean Decker, CCP Games - Senior Vice President of Product Development.


Fun fact: he's right.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#597 - 2013-07-03 15:04:38 UTC
Guttripper wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Can some one tell me what his job actually involves?


Basically he's doing what was Hilmar's job.


I don't know what that was either, sorry

So what is the pecking order at CCP?

At times, it seems Soundwave calls the shots.

Grayscale seems to do his own alterations and changes with a carte blanche stance. I don't like this so...

There are all these little groups that may or may not get something included during one of the various expansions or patches - Team Avatar comes to mind.

One of the minute notes from a recent CSM meeting seem that CCP hired another - forgot the name, but brought up the aspect of "theme expansions" as directing the future of Eve.

Hilmar was overseeing the direction but now brought in a Vice President to do that task...?

Perhaps CCP's laid back corporate stance will become a rigid order.


More ongoing projects.

More stuff to be managed.

Hillmar only ahs one head to deal with all that.

Hiring a VP to assign him jobs to manage like every god damn corporation do when they get big.

I wonder if maybe it's just happening because of that...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#598 - 2013-07-03 15:06:22 UTC
Guttripper wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Can some one tell me what his job actually involves?


Basically he's doing what was Hilmar's job.


I don't know what that was either, sorry

So what is the pecking order at CCP?

At times, it seems Soundwave calls the shots.

Grayscale seems to do his own alterations and changes with a carte blanche stance. I don't like this so...

There are all these little groups that may or may not get something included during one of the various expansions or patches - Team Avatar comes to mind.

One of the minute notes from a recent CSM meeting seem that CCP hired another - forgot the name, but brought up the aspect of "theme expansions" as directing the future of Eve.

Hilmar was overseeing the direction but now brought in a Vice President to do that task...?

Perhaps CCP's laid back corporate stance will become a rigid order.


We have a saying for it where I come from "Jobs for the boys"



Its getting nearly as bad as politicians around here

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#599 - 2013-07-03 15:08:33 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Attracting new players is one thing, and is an admirable ambition. Sacrificing everything that makes EvE unique and turning it into another pump'n'dump game in order to do so is not.


CCP doesn't have much of a choice.


If they don't compete, and the MMO players decline (due to consoles), they have to do something.




This is not even close to happen.



First because PC games are the bases of all gaming styles you ever see around and second because consoles are getting closer and closer of just another PC and not the other way around.

Blink


You're chasing ghosts.

When gaming companies embraced consoles as the means to deliver their product, what do you think the outcome would be? PC gaming growing?

They're going at best hybrid now. BF3 is a perfect example of it, XBox; PS3 and PC. And that's the future of gaming.

I don't make the decisions, I'm just pointing out the reality.



Gamming is a business as long as there are people that want proper PC games, there will be a market for that and game swill come.

There are lots of games that woudl FAIl and flop completely if they tried to be on consoles.


Also superior people with smarter minds have more money to spend, and they 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of time prefer PC games.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#600 - 2013-07-03 15:11:21 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Attracting new players is one thing, and is an admirable ambition. Sacrificing everything that makes EvE unique and turning it into another pump'n'dump game in order to do so is not.


CCP doesn't have much of a choice.


If they don't compete, and the MMO players decline (due to consoles), they have to do something.




This is not even close to happen.



First because PC games are the bases of all gaming styles you ever see around and second because consoles are getting closer and closer of just another PC and not the other way around.

Blink


You're chasing ghosts.

When gaming companies embraced consoles as the means to deliver their product, what do you think the outcome would be? PC gaming growing?

They're going at best hybrid now. BF3 is a perfect example of it, XBox; PS3 and PC. And that's the future of gaming.

I don't make the decisions, I'm just pointing out the reality.



Gamming is a business as long as there are people that want proper PC games, there will be a market for that and game swill come.

There are lots of games that woudl FAIl and flop completely if they tried to be on consoles.


Also superior people with smarter minds have more money to spend, and they 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of time prefer PC games.


*Citation needed*