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Eve Devs being moved to try and rescue Dust.

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Nox Solitudo
That Random Worker Ant Colony
#101 - 2013-07-03 15:29:40 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
WoW stuff


You know what, I am not surprised at all that the best summary I've ever read about what happened to WoW can be found on EVE forums.

I salute you, and For the Horde!
CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
#102 - 2013-07-03 15:46:51 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Soundwave
Just to clarify something: Just because we're hiring into Dust doesn't affect the total number of slots working on EVE. If anyone jumps to another project, that slot will be re-hired (Fozzie was a re-hire for a Dust transfer for example).

The tl;dr is that the expansions will continue churning at an unchanged pace.

Soundwave out
Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
#103 - 2013-07-03 15:51:17 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Fozzie was a re-hire for a Dust transfer for example.

You moved one third of the Eve devs in one go?

Fear God and Thread Nought

Inari Kobayashi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#104 - 2013-07-03 16:09:41 UTC
But heh - you have got to admit that whoever named it DUST deserves a medal - it is exactly what it (and their money) has become...

Truly prescient
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2013-07-03 16:29:53 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Dear CCP,

You can't polish a turd.

Of course you can.

The result won't be pretty, though.
Really, it won't...

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#106 - 2013-07-03 23:14:05 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Selling Tinfoil hats !!!

1plex per hat


That's pretty cheap by Noble Exchange standards Lol

But seriously, hats! Where are they?
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2013-07-03 23:30:37 UTC
I hope some of those people getting hired will be working on the PVE content.... Can't wait!!!

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships

reservent
Filthy Peasants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#108 - 2013-07-04 01:43:39 UTC
Sebastian N Cain wrote:
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Dear CCP,

You can't polish a turd.

Of course you can.

The result won't be pretty, though.
Really, it won't...


Take the Revenant for example.

http://img.infinint.net/d/2497-1/revenant.jpg

Totally been done before by CCP
Hicksimus
Torgue
#109 - 2013-07-04 03:01:56 UTC
reservent wrote:
Sebastian N Cain wrote:
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Dear CCP,

You can't polish a turd.

Of course you can.

The result won't be pretty, though.
Really, it won't...


Take the Revenant for example.

http://img.infinint.net/d/2497-1/revenant.jpg

Totally been done before by CCP



I made a Revenant in the toilet first thing this morning.

Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you? Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.

Ellahan Vhektor
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#110 - 2013-07-04 06:32:34 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Selling Tinfoil hats !!!

1plex per hat

omg yes this i'll take 3!

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Thandra Thul
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2013-07-04 07:07:09 UTC
It was obvious from the get-go that DUST would be a flop.

I honestly don't know how this project was given the thumbs up. All that time and effort put into incarna and DUST could have accomplished some pretty amazing things in EVE.
Chamile Eonic
The Church of MDAMC
#112 - 2013-07-04 08:43:11 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Just to clarify something: Just because we're hiring into Dust doesn't affect the total number of slots working on EVE. If anyone jumps to another project, that slot will be re-hired (Fozzie was a re-hire for a Dust transfer for example).

The tl;dr is that the expansions will continue churning at an unchanged pace.

Soundwave out


I bet it keeps you up at night; thinking about how much more you could have done with Eve if you had all the resources they used on Dust.

What are the top 5 things you would have used the extra resources to add to eve in the last 3/4 years?
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#113 - 2013-07-04 08:46:19 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Just to clarify something: Just because we're hiring into Dust doesn't affect the total number of slots working on EVE. If anyone jumps to another project, that slot will be re-hired (Fozzie was a re-hire for a Dust transfer for example).

The tl;dr is that the expansions will continue churning at an unchanged pace.

Soundwave out



Unchanged pace? So its still slow then :(
Aprudena Gist
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#114 - 2013-07-04 08:59:38 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Just to clarify something: Just because we're hiring into Dust doesn't affect the total number of slots working on EVE. If anyone jumps to another project, that slot will be re-hired (Fozzie was a re-hire for a Dust transfer for example).

The tl;dr is that the expansions will continue churning at an unchanged pace.

Soundwave out

You move the only reasonably okay eve dev to the **** game? yeah that will turn out well for eve. No wonder kill2 has been doing ******** things when it comes to ships.
Fatbear
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2013-07-04 09:57:18 UTC
Aprudena Gist wrote:

You move the only reasonably okay eve dev to the **** game? yeah that will turn out well for eve. No wonder kill2 has been doing ******** things when it comes to ships.


Reading comprehension isn't your strong point, is it?
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2013-07-04 09:59:06 UTC
What I fear worst of all is.....what about the children? Who will take care of them?

Don't ban me, bro!

Glasgow Dunlop
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2013-07-04 11:32:10 UTC
The thing is with dust however, it does have the grounding to be a really good game. Roll

Another thing with dust is that you can always sweep it under the carpet or throw it out a window and its gone, and you have a nice clean room, for more EVE Cool

And what is the quintessential essence of Dust Anyways?

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2013-07-04 12:07:40 UTC
Chamile Eonic wrote:
I bet it keeps you up at night; thinking about how much more you could have done with Eve if you had all the resources they used on Dust.

What are the top 5 things you would have used the extra resources to add to eve in the last 3/4 years?


What resources? Idea

Sandbox game with the reason why sandbox games get such negative PR -- lack of content, as the players are the types that like unfinished, non-polished games and fight to keep them so. Rather tinker in the grim, than taking a hot shower and change that underwear.

Jesus A. Christ. You have devs moderating the game forum. That's how much EvE operates on a shoestring (let alone how bad game mechanics are if they can't trust anyone else to do the job), it can't even have a community manager let alone moderators vetted enough to be trusted to moderate their own forum.

Get those heads out of the sand, and look at the bigger picture.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2013-07-04 13:24:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Uoweme
Jackie Fisher wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Fozzie was a re-hire for a Dust transfer for example.

You moved one third of the Eve devs in one go?


Blizzard moved 80 of it's devs off of Titan and reassigned them to other projects. Titan is still being developed (probably the bare staff to redesign from scratch). It happens.

As long as they're not fired, they're still producing.

80. That's how many those top 2 game companies put on AAA titles. Regular factory of devs. That's how the big boys get the games out and have them so polished. And that costs money. MMOs are topping 100 million dollars now for current tech and concept MMOs. MMO 2.0, I don't even want to fathom what Blizzard is sinking into Titan. 25 million a month?

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Freighdee Katt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2013-07-04 16:34:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Freighdee Katt
Glasgow Dunlop wrote:
The thing is with dust however, it does have the grounding to be a really good game.

It has about as much in common with a well grounded FPS as Minesweeper does.

That's its problem: As a shooter game, it gets none of the basics right, which means nobody cares about the one marginal gimmick that it has which other shooters don't. As IGN put it, the entire sum of the "EvE Connection," seen from the perspective of a DUST player, is "not particularly distinguishable from Modern Warfare's predator drone."

It has doods running around with guns. In that sense, yeah, it has at least two things that you expect to see in a shooter. Beyond that, as a shooter, it is uninspired and badly done. CCP has done nothing up to his point, and has shown nothing coming on the near horizon, that is going to change the fact that it is baffling, frustrating, and annoying for non-EvE players to get into, and it offers no discernible reward in return for the effort demanded by its stupidly high learning curve and punishing grind.

EvE is supposed to suck.  Wait . . . what was the question?