EVE General Discussion

LMFAO at all you Nay sayers... For starters PS3 is ONLY resently landing in China ......There is this HUGE untapped goldmine !
Do you really think CCP is that stupid to invest into something that has no potential?

Dust514 could have probably a larger success on PC than console, I say "could" without any data to prove my point of view of course.
Just a feeling when you see hundreds if not thousands of FPS out there in PC having far more players in a couple weeks than Dust514 after time.
The potential is there, complexity and interactivity in between two different games is an awesome concept but adding the Console factor imho is killing the bird before it learns to fly.
Just an opinion of course, I'd probably be playing Dust514 instead of Planetside2 if Dust was on PC.

Well, ever since EA et al got on the campaign of cremating piracy, consoles became the platform to program for by these game companies.

The result is the next generation of gamer is now playing on consoles, instead of PCs (they're using laptops anyway).

These 2004 games were never designed for consoles.

Blizzard is losing a lot of subs because while players leave, the new gamers aren't replacing them... they're playing on consoles.

Used to be Wal-Mart had shelves of PC boxes at their stores (where WoW had a complete shelf for themselves). Now it's but a corner, while the XBox, PS3, and Wii display cases fill up the electronics section. Same with the game stores.

Without a media presence on those shelves, games aren't going to be played, as they're not noticed...and the new generation didn't hear of these 2004 games.

So in an effort to try to get SOME market share, devs have to go where the market is now.

Too early to see what Star Citizen will become (being a publicly invested game and made for PCs). But at this stage that's where PC gaming is being shelved too.

If CCP saw Activision-Blizzard's stock report, yeah, they moved it now. The writing is on the wall for PC gaming.

You have every right to charge me a plex if you literally put a tinfoil hat on my avatar.

On an unrelated note, why does Dust get special attention while other failed projects don't? (cosmos, incarna...) there are better things they could be "fixing".

Check http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust statistics to watch Dust go in the same direction as my nerfed to hell drop ship. (Hint: Down.)

This. And I am guessing from your presence here that you are DUST's most favored demographic, the player most likely to be most generous to it (i.e., the dedicated EvE player who either has a console already or got one just to play DUST, specifically because of the connection with EvE, which you're already invested in).

From the perspective of non-EvE players, the game is just amazingly bad in all the most important areas, starting with the terrible controls and horrendous, overcomplex EvE-esque loadout system that CCP insisted on shackling the game with, and just going downhill from there. Anyone who is not coming from years of playing EvE could care less about --- in most cases probably doesn't even know about --- the "EvE connection." What those players see after five minutes of struggling to play the game is an MMOFPS that is awful in every way compared with its polished competitors, which were made by game companies that know how to make shooters and have been doing so for years.

CCP basically designed this game to fail, by locking it into a niche market of a niche market (EvE bittervets who have or will buy consoles just for the gee-whiz factor of playing a shooter linked to their favorite MMO). And even among those players, the game still struggles because it's just . . . bad.

Not even hordes of Chinese ISK farmers can save the game at this point, because DUST (deliberately, and necessarily) is not and cannot be a conduit for farming ISK or anything else to sell into the deep market of EvE players. Even the bots and gold farmers are going to take one look and move on once they realize there is nothing of value to farm and nobody for them to sell to on the DUST side, and they have no access to the real market on the EvE side.

NOW THAT i would spend my AUR that was given me... can you all whip up a tinfoil hat please? My toon would look bad arse with a tin foil hat.

- Released decisively average F2P shooter to a dying platform.
- When it didn't perform up to expectations, goes to double down the bet.
- Is CCP

The only thing that might somehow save Dust is if they somehow magically pull PS4 and PC clients out of their hat within the next six months while fixing a ton of stupid away. PS3, while sporting a massive theoretical installed base, is dead. Existing PS3 users are pretty much concentrated on a few SCEJ/SCEA exclusives that have massive budgets and competent PS3-centric dev teams...

PS4 ships in a few months, all the "cool kids" will jump platforms (especially as it ships at such a low price point) and what's left of Dust 514 playerbase will go poof.

Are they actually going to fix Dust 514?

(Then make the fixes a DLC?)

Actually, the sun never sets on the British Empire:

http://what-if.xkcd.com/48/