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Jump Freighter Ganking - CCP what you will do against this???

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Nightshade Mary
Darkwater Innovations
#401 - 2013-07-05 13:42:07 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Nightshade Mary wrote:
This really makes me wonder how hard this is. It's a Jumpfreighter.

Burn the isotopes to jump close to where you need to go. Then fly the few remaining jumps.

Keep an exit cyno handy.

Yes, it's "easy" to gank a JF. It does however have a very viable exit strategy.

So what your saying is its safer to jump into lowsec and then back into high to move an empty jump freighter than move it through high. . . Seems a tad weird dont you think. . .


To be honest, if done properly, it probably is a lot safer.

If you insist on going gate by gate; keep the exit cyno on standby.
Starkiller Lothlorien
Doomheim
#402 - 2013-07-05 13:49:48 UTC
Cannot operate frieghter in Wow either. No haulage at all if I understand correctly. Auction House instant teleport thing?

Now you got me doing it.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#403 - 2013-07-05 13:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Infinity Ziona wrote:
So what your saying is its safer to jump into lowsec and then back into high to move an empty jump freighter than move it through high. . . Seems a tad weird dont you think. . .

Setting aside for a moment that, unless we're talking about wars and denial of strategic assets, no-one attacks an empty jump freighter…

Bypassing known and obvious choke points being safer than flying straight through them doesn't seem particularly weird, no.

Nightshade Mary wrote:
To be honest, if done properly, it probably is a lot safer.
Empty systems are always safer. Low has plenty of those, and bottleneck systems — almost by definition — aren't empty. Blink
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#404 - 2013-07-05 14:03:50 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
I want EvE to succeed


EVE has steadily grown over the last 10 years and has not experienced any significant drops in subscribers on the way. I don't think anyone here who doesn't want EVE to succeed, but you don't do that by making it attractive to WoW trash who will play it for a while until Blizzard releases new content. There's a difference between accessibility and safety.

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#405 - 2013-07-06 00:08:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Tippia wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Bat Country only kills freighters with like 6 packaged Tengus in it (seen an killmail by your IsBox corps), that's why. You gatecamp looking for big kills to brag about.
…ok, and what's the reason everyone else isn't doing it? After all, if it was easy and bountiful in ISK, people should be flocking to it like crazy.

I think its because most people prefer to play EvE, not game EvE.

Also since this thread is about ganking an empty jump freighter I dont think your last post claiming noone ganks empty JFs

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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#406 - 2013-07-06 00:26:07 UTC
Anyone know what the average salvage from a freighter/JF is?
Short Stack122
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#407 - 2013-07-06 01:37:53 UTC
N00b tears x 1,000,000,000
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#408 - 2013-07-06 04:45:14 UTC
have you considered carrying less valuble loot so that you are less of a target? or webbing yourself on an alt? or watch listing the known culprits? or avoiding the known systems?
Maria212
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#409 - 2013-07-06 07:53:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Maria212
How about yall get some cojones and stop acting like children that someone stole a candy from..

You act as highec is a perfectly safe place for you to haul expensive stuff around and think noone can take it away from you?

Well the real life is just the same as high sec...
Laws protect you from being robbed by measures taken against thiefs..
But that still doesnt mean someone wont go for it and steal your wallet in the middle of the day, just couse constitution and laws said so...

And what the hell does CCP have to do with your inability of scouting/gathering intel before you haul expensive crap?
You blame others for your loss..
The only person here to blame is you.. You know ganks happen since there was EvE....
Scout the gates? Check dotlan for for recent kills? Check if there is alot of faction military ships on gate?
Meh....


EvE comunity does not need likes of you that only know to blame others for stupid mistakes they made..

You play EvE for 8 years and still dont know how to avoid getting ganked...
GG

EDIT:
no.1 I dont suicide gank ships in higsec
no.2 I am strongly against those kind of tactics and i would really like that noone did it, but hey. griefing is allowed.
no.3 DEAL WITH IT
Mag's
Azn Empire
#410 - 2013-07-06 08:04:27 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Bat Country only kills freighters with like 6 packaged Tengus in it (seen an killmail by your IsBox corps), that's why. You gatecamp looking for big kills to brag about.
…ok, and what's the reason everyone else isn't doing it? After all, if it was easy and bountiful in ISK, people should be flocking to it like crazy.

I think its because most people prefer to play EvE, not game EvE.

Also since this thread is about ganking an empty jump freighter I dont think your last post claiming noone ganks empty JFs
So shooting ships is now gaming Eve, not playing it? Does this mean if you play chess you wouldn't dream of taking someone's queen, as that would be gaming chess?

Oh and Tippia actually said if they at war or are trying to deny others strategic assets, then people would gank empty jump freighters. Blink

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Starkiller Lothlorien
Doomheim
#411 - 2013-07-06 12:29:49 UTC
Ganking empty shipf all fine, no complaints from CCP only carebears no scout first.

No-score empty gank even better some as forthcoming gankolympics show - less at risk, less prior intel so easier gank.

Still boring though.
Istyn
Freight Club
#412 - 2013-07-06 23:08:58 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Anyone know what the average salvage from a freighter/JF is?


Freighter = metal scraps or something equally worthless.

JF, it depends on which one, but can max out around 1bil if you're very lucky but nobody is ever going to run the risk of ganking for salvage (500m+ drops are really quite rare), and even if you do get a good drop, your entire gank fleet is rendered useless for 15 minutes, so you have nothing to use when something actually worth money passes by.