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Teenage gamer may go to prison for 8 years.

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Ziphis
Dingus Coalition
HYPE-TRAIN
#41 - 2013-07-01 07:14:01 UTC
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
Ziphis wrote:
I dunno, something about the stories that are coming out of the USA are constantly reminding my of George Orwell's nineteen eight four I mean seriously this person who tracked the kids IP was praised instead of jailed for Hacking......isnt Hacking a cyber-crime?

I thought sarcasm was just part of being a troll?

The funny thing about this is the poster one or two above you who has a George Orwell quote in his sig yet seems to be an advocate for Orwellian practices.



Ahaha, I didn't even notice that, but then I don't tend to read peoples sigs just what they have typed as a comment but then as everything seems to be heading down that way Orwell seems appropriate,

He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in wet copper armour shouting 'All the Gods are bastards.'  - T. Pratchett
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2013-07-01 07:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Uoweme
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
Ziphis wrote:
I dunno, something about the stories that are coming out of the USA are constantly reminding my of George Orwell's nineteen eight four I mean seriously this person who tracked the kids IP was praised instead of jailed for Hacking......isnt Hacking a cyber-crime?

I thought sarcasm was just part of being a troll?

The funny thing about this is the poster one or two above you who has a George Orwell quote in his sig yet seems to be an advocate for Orwellian practices.


No, but is aware of them.

I'm not the one advocating for open IP and stuff like that, but am aware of human nature and it's potential.

If folks don't self-police, you will get your 1984. Because society itself will demand it. And humans are herd animals. Post 9/11 "protection" efforts is an example of it in progress now.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#43 - 2013-07-01 07:15:34 UTC
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Sarcasm dead? I hope not, that's an English pastime.


I shall raise my tea to that...pip pip!


I'm sorry, but your response makes me severely doubt that you are in fact English... we don't live in the 1800s.

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-07-01 07:17:17 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Ziphis wrote:
I dunno, something about the stories that are coming out of the USA are constantly reminding my of George Orwell's nineteen eight four I mean seriously this person who tracked the kids IP was praised instead of jailed for Hacking......isnt Hacking a cyber-crime?

I thought sarcasm was just part of being a troll?


As much as the trend scares me, it's not a US thing. The UK in particular has really started to crack down on things they consider hate speech.

Side note: Looking up IPs is far from illegal or hacking (there are in fact public registrars like http://whois.net/ ). It's more likely that he was found via social networking or some online persona, which again, is pretty mundane.


A different article said it was a Facebook game, that makes it really easy to track the players.
Ziphis
Dingus Coalition
HYPE-TRAIN
#45 - 2013-07-01 07:21:19 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
Ziphis wrote:
I dunno, something about the stories that are coming out of the USA are constantly reminding my of George Orwell's nineteen eight four I mean seriously this person who tracked the kids IP was praised instead of jailed for Hacking......isnt Hacking a cyber-crime?

I thought sarcasm was just part of being a troll?


As much as the trend scares me, it's not a US thing. The UK in particular has really started to crack down on things they consider hate speech.

Side note: Looking up IPs is far from illegal or hacking (there are in fact public registrars like http://whois.net/ ). It's more likely that he was found via social networking or some online persona, which again, is pretty mundane.


A different article said it was a Facebook game, that makes it really easy to track the players.



From whats being said in the papers (yes i know papers are not a form of getting great intel xD) that the game was LoL

He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in wet copper armour shouting 'All the Gods are bastards.'  - T. Pratchett
coolzero
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-07-01 07:23:30 UTC
should he get punished for what he said...... yes but man not 8 years in jail lol thats just insane

but this is a country where a judge is going to jail becuase he had a deal with a jail owner so he send pretty much ever minor to jail for years for minor law violations just so they could profit of it (jails being a for profit business in the USA)
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-07-01 07:27:12 UTC
coolzero wrote:
should he get punished for what he said...... yes but man not 8 years in jail lol thats just insane

but this is a country where a judge is going to jail becuase he had a deal with a jail owner so he send pretty much ever minor to jail for years for minor law violations just so they could profit of it (jails being a for profit business in the USA)





Sounds like a tough sentence, even though I've not even read the case.


But sounds like they just want to use him to set an example and warn others. Hence a steep sentence.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-07-01 07:28:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Uoweme
coolzero wrote:
should he get punished for what he said...... yes but man not 8 years in jail lol thats just insane

but this is a country where a judge is going to jail becuase he had a deal with a jail owner so he send pretty much ever minor to jail for years for minor law violations just so they could profit of it (jails being a for profit business in the USA)



No other country jails more.

But all is still possible because not enough self-policing. If society has to enforce morality/ethics (and not the individual) they'll use the biggest clubs available, and as indiscriminately too.

Not 1984 style, Clockwork Orange style.

Self-policing keeps it under the radar. If you let the powers-that-be shine their laser on it because they now know about it, the interest can even be incinerated as the powers-that-be will do anything to remain in power.

So the gaming world has to police themselves, as the alternative isn't pleasant.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Li Tiger
Deep Space Resources Ltd.
#49 - 2013-07-01 07:32:07 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
all teenagers should go to prison.
Yes then they can bloody learn it, little bastards! Nah the time (long long loooong time agooo!) I was young and beautiful (now I'm just beautiful!) ... yes there was .... na - I do not bother! ... hrumff! .... Idea dreaming me back to the time bodily all things were in its place ...
Ziphis
Dingus Coalition
HYPE-TRAIN
#50 - 2013-07-01 07:33:08 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
coolzero wrote:
should he get punished for what he said...... yes but man not 8 years in jail lol thats just insane

but this is a country where a judge is going to jail becuase he had a deal with a jail owner so he send pretty much ever minor to jail for years for minor law violations just so they could profit of it (jails being a for profit business in the USA)



No other country jails more.

But all is still possible because not enough self-policing. If society has to enforce morality/ethics (and not the individual) they'll use the biggest clubs available, and as indiscriminately too.

Not 1984 style, Clockwork Orange style.

Self-policing keeps it under the radar. If you let the powers-that-be shine their laser on it because they now know about it, the interest can even be incinerated as the powers-that-be will do anything to remain in power.


Yeah good point with the Clockwork orange though It does seem that you associate both books with most countries now-a-days.

But 8 years in jail is too steep even to make him a point for gamers who use sarcasm to reply to others in my eyes anyway

He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in wet copper armour shouting 'All the Gods are bastards.'  - T. Pratchett
First Star Wolf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2013-07-01 07:34:08 UTC
freedom of speech working as intended.
Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#52 - 2013-07-01 07:36:04 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
I'm subscribed to his channel because some of his reviews on the gaming world are hilarious. His video was the first I'd heard of it...

If you want credability...here.


Your choice of source says a lot about you is all.


I'll underline that part for you shall I? I like watching a multitute of game reviews, some being idiots some not... Where would you like to go with this? Lol


Darvaleth Sigma wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Sarcasm dead? I hope not, that's an English pastime.


I shall raise my tea to that...pip pip!


I'm sorry, but your response makes me severely doubt that you are in fact English... we don't live in the 1800s.


Ah you see, I am English, and I drink a hell of a lot of (some say too much) tea... So... You know lol

But this is side tracking. This tea part was meant comically and sarcastically. Showing all too well how sarcasm doesn't work on the internet.

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2013-07-01 07:40:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Uoweme
Ziphis wrote:
Yeah good point with the Clockwork orange though It does seem that you associate both books with most countries now-a-days.

But 8 years in jail is too steep even to make him a point for gamers who use sarcasm to reply to others in my eyes anyway


That happens because of human nature. People want action now, they don't think of the broader consequences that can happen later.

Just like the post 9/11 "protections".

It's very very very difficult to get a law off the books once it's there. This is why folks have to nip such legislation fast and before it does get on the books. Otherwise, it does take a revolution to change it.

What is happening now is a quick fix for a problem that's harder to fix, as it relates to self-policing. And self-policing is the biggest club the "little guy" has against Big Brother.

And it all relates to anarchy. As no civilization can endorse it, because it's the civilization killer. Too much freedom = anarchy. Self-policing is a step above anarchy and protecting PERSONAL freedom, without the need of Big Brother to protect the people.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
First Star Wolf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-07-01 07:42:09 UTC
Darvaleth Sigma wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Sarcasm dead? I hope not, that's an English pastime.


I shall raise my tea to that...pip pip!


I'm sorry, but your response makes me severely doubt that you are in fact English... we don't live in the 1800s.



didnt get the sarcastic comment What?
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#55 - 2013-07-01 07:42:22 UTC
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
I'll underline that part for you shall I? I like watching a multitute of game reviews, some being idiots some not... Where would you like to go with this? Lol


Mainly that you rage because some youtuber tells you to and not because you bothered to look into it.

That makes you just as much of a sheep as the angry soccer moms if you ask me; it's important to be indignant for the right reasons.
Professional Forum Alt
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-07-01 07:42:34 UTC
This is SO SO SO sad ...

This is Angelica Everstar's alt
Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-07-01 07:52:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Hessian Arcturus
S Byerley wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
I'll underline that part for you shall I? I like watching a multitute of game reviews, some being idiots some not... Where would you like to go with this? Lol


Mainly that you rage because some youtuber tells you to and not because you bothered to look into it.

That makes you just as much of a sheep as the angry soccer moms if you ask me; it's important to be indignant for the right reasons.


Here let me underline something in the original post for you...

Hessian Arcturus wrote:

EDIT: If you don't want to watch the youtube vid, links to the news article are in the description. I just find AlphaOmegaSin's reaction brilliant, and it pretty much mirrors my own view on the topic.


But it's okay, you put me in the same category as the soccor mums which can only mean one thing. You think I'm a couger and want in my knickers...

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-07-01 07:57:24 UTC
Ziphis wrote:
I dunno, something about the stories that are coming out of the USA are constantly reminding my of George Orwell's nineteen eight four I mean seriously this person who tracked the kids IP was praised instead of jailed for Hacking......isnt Hacking a cyber-crime?

I thought sarcasm was just part of being a troll?


It happened in a discussion about LoL on Facebook, not in LoL itself.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
flakeys
Doomheim
#59 - 2013-07-01 08:02:31 UTC
Only in the land of hopes and dreams .....




on a sidenote the guy ''telling the story'' could use the word **** a lill less . Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#60 - 2013-07-01 08:02:37 UTC
This is all very typical of the totalitarian governments people think they have chosen themselves. It's a sad state of affairs, but it is how it is. I'm sure a few more decades of indentured service in our bureau-democratic systems will stamp out the last sparks of surprise at these events, should you feel distressed by them. Really, just take your soma and take a vacation, you will feel better.