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Rens - Outted Scammers - Welcome to Rens, Buy'n'Fly Safe!!!

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ShmiTar
The Stone Gate
Empire of Decadence.
#1 - 2013-06-30 08:06:25 UTC  |  Edited by: ShmiTar
Fighting Fire with Fire
wanted to put this in newcomer Q&A
should be good for a laugh and helpful for complete newbies Big smile
gooddeal:scamdeal ratio 1:100
only because it gets under their skin...... well, and they were caught scamming..... also i'm fairly sure they all said "i don't care, no one cares" so they shouldn't mind Blink

Tragic: eve pilot lost his next month of game to the market pull "Margin Trade".... one less Pod Pilot may he cryo sleep in peaceSad

-----History of known Scammers----- - Rens

- Kerrigan Amarr (spams the same scam like a bot, good effort)
- (Not a bad guy actually) <--- Known as The Mad Scammer ( may be under review )
- Scooter L
- Bad Attitude Baracus
- Rayde Naskingar
- Fancy Space Tourist <--- tendency to get mad
- Millo (or Milla or something)
- Mal Dizzle
- Mica Kylez <--- creative scammer (Also has good deals)
- Hydra Marduk
- Nautica Mee <--- nice graphic and persistant like a bot
- Remmacs Yhtlif
- Spicy Fox <--- wants fame but won't sell her frozen corpse for it {good morals}
- 777 Gambler
- Justicar Dualdon
- Lou Xlejitt
- Jones Jones
- Smokie Mclottapot
- Young's Modulus
- Umora Arjar
- frazejita Paaltomo

-----Scam Supporters-----{ a.k.a. Scummers - Rens }
{redeemable section}

- Agent Plu
- Orivar
- Warpguy warpgod
- Vital Proxy
- Wobbly Ron
- (removed due to kindness) [despite being rude below]
- killface Eriker (quote: ) naw it was just mean
- Reeeech

-----Random-----

- (Claimed) placed 500,000 ISK in bounty on your head. (sarcastic lawl)
- Failed Assassination attempt, twice, two innocent miners ships have been lost, and a Failed "Fail can" at the first...... glad i talked them out of bringing their family's
- (Claimed) placed 2,000,000 ISK in bounty on your head.
- 25 corp Alliance Declares War Against ShmiTar and 2 miners =/ (r u turtly enough for the turtle club?.... NPC corp might be a better use of time rather then playing turtleCool)
- another bounty 100k..... can't remember the name atm

-----Questions Scammers ask?-----

"why my Butthurt?" - unanimous
" abcdefg, hijklmnop, qrstuv, wxyareyoua******?" (linguists are still working on it)
"did i heard something rattle in my head? should i say it? i think it was words!" (through the grape vine i heard they ask each other this in private clubs)
"is ShmiTar mad?" (i assume they meant "is")
"*insert ad here*?" - bot
"are they gone yet?" (meaning anti scam protesters)
"do i smell smoke?"
"do you ever wonder what it might feel like to sell something?"
"u be scam so mad" ? not sure if that was a question
"do you think they know we're Wall St. employees?"


-----People Begging to be on this list-----

- Kaarous Aldurald
- Suh Ndamukong


Seems all the Scammers have been scammed before.......


Snipped out a word that got past the filter. -- ISD LackOfFaith
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-06-30 08:11:36 UTC
Rens looks like the word Runs, which is probably why folks are way, way, way in Jita. Pirate

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3 - 2013-06-30 08:16:43 UTC
It's highly possible this violates forum rules.

At the very least, it belongs in Crime and Punishment, not General Discussion.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
El Bongo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-06-30 08:17:38 UTC
So I troll local Rens daily....people know me... ask around.
This guy shows up in chat crying about being scammed one day now goes on a holy crusade against it...cool nothing wrong with that...

However he chooses to SPAM chat with his crying and I like to tell him off...

Bro move on, get into the game...for reals. go do something.

Anyway Come support my anti-cry baby team in Rens chat and enjoy the show :D
Jay Bonarta
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-06-30 08:31:19 UTC
ShmiTar actually I've never posted a scam... I reposted some other peoples with some mocking comments... but never an original scam. I have however spent a lot of time flaming you because you make it oh so easy... remember when you wouldn't duel me until I offered to fight your carrier in my Jaguar??? That was funny. Cus you actually jump cloned outta Rens and it was a nice break from your shenanigans.

Much love, your biggest fan.

J. Pirate
Alexa Tivianne
Dark Intentions Inc.
#6 - 2013-06-30 08:34:08 UTC
ShmiTar,

I would first like to start off saying that Jay is not a scammer for whatever reason you think he is.
Second would you please take your local spam to Jita where it belongs

Thank you your friend,
Alexa
Sunshyn LaBlond
Heathen Souls
#7 - 2013-06-30 08:45:45 UTC
If you even have local open in a trade hub (unless you're at war and need to look for WTs) then you are doing it wrong.

There is NOTHING useful in trade hub local. People that are actually useful in Eve are not sitting in trade hubs spamming contract links for hours on end.
ShmiTar
The Stone Gate
Empire of Decadence.
#8 - 2013-06-30 08:54:50 UTC
Alexa Tivianne wrote:
ShmiTar,

I would first like to start off saying that Jay is not a scammer for whatever reason you think he is.
Second would you please take your local spam to Jita where it belongs

Thank you your friend,
Alexa


he was caught..... sorry, people you can trust are few and far between in New Eden
Jay Bonarta
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-06-30 09:11:42 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
ShmiTar wrote:
Alexa Tivianne wrote:
ShmiTar,

I would first like to start off saying that Jay is not a scammer for whatever reason you think he is.
Second would you please take your local spam to Jita where it belongs

Thank you your friend,
Alexa


he was caught..... sorry, people you can trust are few and far between in New Eden

\





Where's your incontrivertible proof kid? Snip. Personal attacks are prohibited. -- ISD LackOfFaith
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-06-30 09:26:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
ShmiTar wrote:
wanted to put this in newcomer Q&A
should be good for a laugh and helpful for complete newbies Big smile

only because it gets under their skin...... well, and they were caught scamming

Will this start a "flame war"!, probably going to be the same stuff as in local Roll given the nature of Scammers and Scummers (Pro Scamming Pilots) and no i haven't been scammed before...



Why start a thread that you know will likely cause flames? Bored, trolling?

Scamming is legit (never done it before and never been caught by a scam as yet) and the few you mention is only just the tip of the iceberg. Removed their character names as I only have your word for it, plus you're not supposed to name and shame on the forums (not that there's anything to be ashamed of as scamming is a legit method of game play).

Scams are not hard to avoid, except for maybe the trading margin one if you're unaware of it. But even that you could apply, if it's to good to be true it's probably a scam.
ShmiTar
The Stone Gate
Empire of Decadence.
#11 - 2013-06-30 09:40:30 UTC
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
wanted to put this in newcomer Q&A
should be good for a laugh and helpful for complete newbies Big smile

only because it gets under their skin...... well, and they were caught scamming

Will this start a "flame war"!, probably going to be the same stuff as in local Roll given the nature of Scammers and Scummers (Pro Scamming Pilots) and no i haven't been scammed before...



Why start a thread that you know will likely cause flames? Bored, trolling?

Scamming is legit (never done it before and never been caught by a scam as yet) and the few you mention is only just the tip of the iceberg. Removed their character names as I only have your word for it, plus you're not supposed to name and shame on the forums (not that there's anything to be ashamed of as scamming is a legit method of game play).

Scams are not hard to avoid, except for maybe the trading margin one if you're unaware of it. But even that you could apply, if it's to good to be true it's probably a scam.



every one seems for it instead of against it, and i could round up other witnesses but this is for fun, we put up with scam spam, BUT DON'T DARE POINT IT OUT! or you're the one to blame...... What?..... p.s. could always use the chat log
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-06-30 09:43:09 UTC
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
wanted to put this in newcomer Q&A
should be good for a laugh and helpful for complete newbies Big smile

only because it gets under their skin...... well, and they were caught scamming

Will this start a "flame war"!, probably going to be the same stuff as in local Roll given the nature of Scammers and Scummers (Pro Scamming Pilots) and no i haven't been scammed before...



Why start a thread that you know will likely cause flames? Bored, trolling?

Scamming is legit (never done it before and never been caught by a scam as yet) and the few you mention is only just the tip of the iceberg. Removed their character names as I only have your word for it, plus you're not supposed to name and shame on the forums (not that there's anything to be ashamed of as scamming is a legit method of game play).

Scams are not hard to avoid, except for maybe the trading margin one if you're unaware of it. But even that you could apply, if it's to good to be true it's probably a scam.



every one seems for it instead of against it, and i could round up other witnesses but this is for fun, we put up with scam spam, BUT DON'T DARE POINT IT OUT! or you're the one to blame...... What?..... p.s. could always use the chat log



Most people are for scams because they're easy to avoid and they're part of what makes EVE different to a lot of other MMOs.
ShmiTar
The Stone Gate
Empire of Decadence.
#13 - 2013-06-30 09:48:21 UTC
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
wanted to put this in newcomer Q&A
should be good for a laugh and helpful for complete newbies Big smile

only because it gets under their skin...... well, and they were caught scamming

Will this start a "flame war"!, probably going to be the same stuff as in local Roll given the nature of Scammers and Scummers (Pro Scamming Pilots) and no i haven't been scammed before...



Why start a thread that you know will likely cause flames? Bored, trolling?

Scamming is legit (never done it before and never been caught by a scam as yet) and the few you mention is only just the tip of the iceberg. Removed their character names as I only have your word for it, plus you're not supposed to name and shame on the forums (not that there's anything to be ashamed of as scamming is a legit method of game play).

Scams are not hard to avoid, except for maybe the trading margin one if you're unaware of it. But even that you could apply, if it's to good to be true it's probably a scam.



every one seems for it instead of against it, and i could round up other witnesses but this is for fun, we put up with scam spam, BUT DON'T DARE POINT IT OUT! or you're the one to blame...... What?..... p.s. could always use the chat log



Most people are for scams because they're easy to avoid and they're part of what makes EVE different to a lot of other MMOs.


even though this is like the 100th time i've said it..... why do you see it everywhere if it's easy to avoid?, and why can't i do this? in a sandbox game? Rhetorical btw
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-06-30 09:58:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
wanted to put this in newcomer Q&A
should be good for a laugh and helpful for complete newbies Big smile

only because it gets under their skin...... well, and they were caught scamming

Will this start a "flame war"!, probably going to be the same stuff as in local Roll given the nature of Scammers and Scummers (Pro Scamming Pilots) and no i haven't been scammed before...



Why start a thread that you know will likely cause flames? Bored, trolling?

Scamming is legit (never done it before and never been caught by a scam as yet) and the few you mention is only just the tip of the iceberg. Removed their character names as I only have your word for it, plus you're not supposed to name and shame on the forums (not that there's anything to be ashamed of as scamming is a legit method of game play).

Scams are not hard to avoid, except for maybe the trading margin one if you're unaware of it. But even that you could apply, if it's to good to be true it's probably a scam.



every one seems for it instead of against it, and i could round up other witnesses but this is for fun, we put up with scam spam, BUT DON'T DARE POINT IT OUT! or you're the one to blame...... What?..... p.s. could always use the chat log



Most people are for scams because they're easy to avoid and they're part of what makes EVE different to a lot of other MMOs.


even though this is like the 100th time i've said it..... why do you see it everywhere if it's easy to avoid?, and why can't i do this? in a sandbox game? Rhetorical btw



Because people think they're going to make something out of the deal and don't think it through before falling for the scam. They may also have a tendency if they think it could be legit to rush their decision in case they miss out on it. It's not the scammers at fault (in this game) it's the person falling for the scam, the person that falls for a scam should reflect on why they fell for the scam, the answer may give them a better understanding about themselves.
ShmiTar
The Stone Gate
Empire of Decadence.
#15 - 2013-06-30 10:05:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ShmiTar
Six Six Six wrote:
Because people think they're going to make something out of the deal and don't think it through before falling for the scam. They may also have a tendency if they think it could be legit to rush their decision in case they miss out on it. It's not the scammers at fault (in this game) it's the person falling for the scam, the person that falls for a scam should reflect on why they fell for the scam, the answer may give them a better understanding about themselves.


"Rhetorical btw" you've heard of the EvE learning curve right?... all i want to do is help, not sure why you don't... outside of the obvious assumption.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-06-30 10:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Because people think they're going to make something out of the deal and don't think it through before falling for the scam. They may also have a tendency if they think it could be legit to rush their decision in case they miss out on it. It's not the scammers at fault (in this game) it's the person falling for the scam, the person that falls for a scam should reflect on why they fell for the scam, the answer may give them a better understanding about themselves.


"Rhetorical btw" you've heard of the EvE learning curve right?... all i want to do is help, not sure why you don't... outside of the obvious assumption.




It's not even about the game's learning curve.

It's more a case of those that are opposed to scamming trying to bring RL values/ideals into the game.
ShmiTar
The Stone Gate
Empire of Decadence.
#17 - 2013-06-30 10:25:04 UTC
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Because people think they're going to make something out of the deal and don't think it through before falling for the scam. They may also have a tendency if they think it could be legit to rush their decision in case they miss out on it. It's not the scammers at fault (in this game) it's the person falling for the scam, the person that falls for a scam should reflect on why they fell for the scam, the answer may give them a better understanding about themselves.


"Rhetorical btw" you've heard of the EvE learning curve right?... all i want to do is help, not sure why you don't... outside of the obvious assumption.




It's not even about the game's learning curve.

It's more a case of those that are opposed to scamming trying to bring RL values/ideals into the game.


k so you be this, i'll play Good Guy RL man.... i guess
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-06-30 10:34:20 UTC
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Because people think they're going to make something out of the deal and don't think it through before falling for the scam. They may also have a tendency if they think it could be legit to rush their decision in case they miss out on it. It's not the scammers at fault (in this game) it's the person falling for the scam, the person that falls for a scam should reflect on why they fell for the scam, the answer may give them a better understanding about themselves.


"Rhetorical btw" you've heard of the EvE learning curve right?... all i want to do is help, not sure why you don't... outside of the obvious assumption.




It's not even about the game's learning curve.

It's more a case of those that are opposed to scamming trying to bring RL values/ideals into the game.


k so you be this, i'll play Good Guy RL man.... i guess



I always play good characters, because all my old bad characters always end up good anyway. Like so many others in RL good values and ideals are so entrenched in me that they will bleed into the game, but I am aware of that issue so I can allow for it.

In a game you don't need RL values/ideals as long as you stay in character, if you take it out of character then those RL values/ideals come back into play.
ShmiTar
The Stone Gate
Empire of Decadence.
#19 - 2013-06-30 11:09:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ShmiTar
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
ShmiTar wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Because people think they're going to make something out of the deal and don't think it through before falling for the scam. They may also have a tendency if they think it could be legit to rush their decision in case they miss out on it. It's not the scammers at fault (in this game) it's the person falling for the scam, the person that falls for a scam should reflect on why they fell for the scam, the answer may give them a better understanding about themselves.


"Rhetorical btw" you've heard of the EvE learning curve right?... all i want to do is help, not sure why you don't... outside of the obvious assumption.




It's not even about the game's learning curve.

It's more a case of those that are opposed to scamming trying to bring RL values/ideals into the game.


k so you be this, i'll play Good Guy RL man.... i guess



I always play good characters, because all my old bad characters always end up good anyway. Like so many others in RL good values and ideals are so entrenched in me that they will bleed into the game, but I am aware of that issue so I can allow for it.

In a game you don't need RL values/ideals as long as you stay in character, if you take it out of character then those RL values/ideals come back into play.


i don't see how good values are an issue, and i didn't bring anything RL into, wall st. gets away with "scamming" all the time, i want to play! and not be reminded of world problems..... and i'm not 100% RP either so i'm not sure that you even have a point....

anyways you may want to look up what rhetorical means, i mean no disrespect by saying that
ShmiTar
The Stone Gate
Empire of Decadence.
#20 - 2013-06-30 11:46:33 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
Alexa Tivianne wrote:
ShmiTar,

I would first like to start off saying that Jay is not a scammer for whatever reason you think he is.
Second would you please take your local spam to Jita where it belongs

Thank you your friend,
Alexa


just so you know....

multiple posts ex:

Snip. Sorry, posting chat logs is prohibited everywhere but in the Pirate Stories thread in C&P. -- ISD LackOfFaith


i could keep looking but meh Cool

trust should be earned not given
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