EVE General Discussion

I suffer from homophobia, which is why i hate the goons... i can't help it it's a medical condition.

The system works. Except there's idiots like that one guy that kept on re-registering. But it works since they're helping keep the servers up.

Now, Something Awful forums aside, we do have people in Goonwaffe who were sponsored. But you knew that already.

Sour grapes?

Jelly?

Insert even more bloody memes here that would get me negrepped to hell on goonfleetdotdom?

Checkbox?

Widot ...

Interesting point of view, obviously unbiased which leads me to my main point about this Goon hate.

This game like many unlike many other games you don't get attached to your character and its pretty armor or sword, you don't get attached to your ship being the same everyone else can have with fits everyone can have, no this is not where the thing lies.

Where hard feelings and attachment start to express themselves in the meanest possible way is when it touches the community you make part of, independently of of tag like Goons of just because you're a miner and therefore adopt miner behaviors and recognize yourself in game behaviors of other guys you don't even know or give a slap about in the first place.

This particular event, because it's nothing more than an event of no more interest than a high sec wardec with ships getting killed pods getting killed and assets being taken/lost, is however an extraordinary moment for many of those "communities" might they be used to work together or not, to express in their own way their hard feelings.
"Hey Goons we hate you and we want you to remember US even if we hate Test as much as you do, but it's just because you're named Goons"

That simple.

Goons pretty sure take this as they always take this sort of event, they're happy, hell they must be happy because if I have something in common with them is the fact I hate isk/h and kill stupid red crosses, I want to shoot ships and make my toon a living for it !!

So from my point of view, when you people think the fact of having more of you against them just because you can and hate them more than you hate Test, doesn't affect them in any other way than provide them the content they really like: spaceships to shoot at, more kills, more ships blown, more fun, more local fun posting and trolling, more funny dudes to meet and say GF in local.

You are doing exactly what this game is meant for and no other game can offer you such opportunity: player created content, and YOU are participating to this exceptional environment and once again confirm the rule: whoever you are, whatever you fly, your actions have meanings and they will shape the eve universe in one way or another.

So thank you, should I say.


Edit because it's worth of: This event gets even more specific because it's slowly involving all communities from high sec passing through low sec and WH, null sec it's almost the entire universe shooting at them, and this is probably one of the greatest players created content in Eve history of the last 5 years and for sure the greatest Event no other game can offer you.

Just fly space ships and have fun, you wount die for real, it's all about pixels having fun with friends from all over the world and getting/flying drunk mess on coms.

I'll be honest here -

I used to loathe the goons. There was no real reason for it, except that I was in IRC and that was the general attitude. I didn't even really know what the Goons were except they were red in local, and out to ruin my day.

I have since come to realize they're just a group of bros hanging with their bros looking to shoot non-bros and have a good time. Just like me. And while I will still happily shoot a goon given the chance, I don't "hate" them anymore. I realized it was pretty silly to let space pixels affect me that strongly.

I will say this though - the goons blew up the very first carrier I ever owned, and in the process taught me a very valuable lesson about Eve - fun > space pixels.

You haven't heard of Wildly Inappropriate. ?

I didn't pay. Someone else bought me an account as a gift.

I'm not sure I could justify joining now but in the years leading up to and some time after my joining, the SA forums made me laugh harder than just about anything I can think of. It was certainly worth someone's :10bux: back in 2006, sorry you're such a horrid little **** that you were tossed out with every other ****-poster vOv. Your kind of visible bitterness doesn't come from someone who didn't [try to] post there at some point.

There went the idea of a $10 fee as a method of controlling spam...

But interesting intelligence in how easy it's to infiltrate the organization though.

I view Goonhate as being comprised very simply. Most "have-nots" need a justification to satisfy their ego, so they don't have to admit to themselves that the "haves" are in fact better than they are, both objectively and subjectively. Thus "They cheated" or "well they only won because they blob", or "well they have all the BPOs anyway", or any other myriad nonsense.

It all boils down to taking the game too seriously, and attaching some form of their personal self worth to it. So anything that comes along that challenges that self worth merits an emotional, knee jerk response to disqualify it.

The Goons are the obvious target for this because they, quite simply, have won at EVE Online. (TEST has done this also, they are in a similar fashion pretty much only accountable to themselves and can do as they please, but The Mittani's gaffe with the suicide comments put the Goons ahead on the radar of the lazy self esteem robots)

Basically, Goons are an easy target to blame for all the ills of the game that the average player doesn't want to chalk up to any failure on their part.

[Edit: Also, for anyone hating on them. They are some of the most earnest, articulate people you are likely to meet in this game. Just don't trust them farther than Optimal + 2* falloff. *insert absurd Jack Sparrow quote*