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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#201 - 2013-06-29 03:14:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Bob Blunts wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Thugnificent Gangstalicio wrote:
Why is moon goo classified as PvE? It's only obtained through PvP.

Because it is PvE material.

Not like you PvP jocks are going to stop training your uber skills to blow up others, to mine/refine/build with it. Your PvE toon will do it, though.

So, you can stop the "I'm a PvPer!!!!" BS.

You make your ISK plying PvE activities (building / market), and use a blob (not a skilled fleet) to gain territory.

In short you guys remind me of WoW players who raid after the nerfs, as you can't cut the mustard.

You only exist due to a blob of ships. What IsBox multiboxers do in other games to dominate you imported in EvE. And then try to claim, "We're #1!!!!!"

Could you get any madder over a video game? Why don't you roll a joint, go chill out and listen to some Marley and come back to this thread when that vein in your forehead stops throbbing.

Any alliance that can make a little spergling like you so f****** angry about this game is A-OK in my books.

That was... good. I will link this post in our Jabber for our newbees to see.

Also, he mentioned blobbing, but since we are in a sovwar hellgrinding, please remember that blueballing is also important, as it leaves TEST with only the enviroment of SBUs and the like.

Player VS Structure, if you would.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#202 - 2013-06-29 04:34:46 UTC
Bob Blunts wrote:
Could you get any madder over a video game? Why don't you roll a joint, go chill out and listen to some Marley and come back to this thread when that vein in your forehead stops throbbing.


lol

No, I'm not mad or even angry. This thread is actually hilarious. Pirate

Years ago I was at a conference and a guest speaker (on public speaking, who used to advise some presidents), told me I was a very effective speaker.

Well, he's right...online...I can see it very clearly by the reactions of others and what they do and who I attract.

Agenda pushers really zero in on me, because I'm very effective at countering their pet issues (let alone they think I'm weak, and really dogpile). When I used to post on the Usenet criminals especially did this (want to know about kooks? Usenet is full of them...they'll even harass in RL). They're in jail today, probably as foaming-at-the-mouth angry there as they were online. In RL, anywhere from a politician to 3 doctors are sitting in federal and state prison for a long time.

So it's not arrogance speaking, it's simply experience. Sideshows; catcalls; trolling and violating every debate protocol known, if you think you're special and novel in your approach, no, seen it for over a decade now (before there was a 4chan, there was alt.flame ya know?)...online and in RL.

Some 23 year-old anon trolling on a game forum isn't even a tasty morsel, he's someone to ignore for being a 23 year-old anon trolling on a game forum in the first place.

This thread is just hilarious for all that it attracts, with Goons rooting for TEST and TEST rooting for Goons. Then you wonder why so many don't give a **** about these blobs in the first place? FW has more meaning than 2 blobs playing paddy cake. These blobs are like the high school "in crowd" that if you really look at were so shallow and pathetic to begin with. They grow up to be the same shallow and pathetic guys/gals, the same guys/gals you really never want to hang out with (name droppers; ladder climbers and those who sleep with anyone to get anywhere).

But geeks want to "fit in" and do what "normal" folks do and now we have this clusterfuck in a space game straight from junior high. Complete with "I'M IRON-MAN!!!" antics from boys that if they were slapped by a girl, they'd still cry (and do so wonderfully on game forums). Roll

It's just all old stuff recycled by yet another generation of "I KNOW EVERYTHING" kids (and when I'm 90, will see it play out again and again and again, as the latest generation all think they're so right and invincible...yet as stupid and incompetent as the generation that proceeded them).

...FLAME ON...

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Alara IonStorm
#203 - 2013-06-29 04:48:46 UTC
You want to know why people hate Goons.

1. Go to YouTube.
2. Pick a few popular videos.
3. Scroll through the comments until you find the word America, US or Merica.
4. Paste them unto Notepad then replace the words above with Goons.
5. Find some Goon threads, read the the hate posts.
6. Compare and Contrast.

There my friend is your f**kin answer. P
Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#204 - 2013-06-29 04:55:21 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
blah


I hope you don't seriously think your claims are going to convince anyone of anything other than that you are a irrelevant blowhard..
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#205 - 2013-06-29 04:59:11 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:

....a guest speaker (on public speaking, who used to advise some presidents), told me I was a very effective speaker.

Well...presidents...is that actually much of an endorsement? :D

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Alara IonStorm
#206 - 2013-06-29 05:04:15 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:

....a guest speaker (on public speaking, who used to advise some presidents), told me I was a very effective speaker.

Well...presidents...is that actually much of an endorsement? :D

Yes it is.

People tend to misunderestimate presidents speaking abilities.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#207 - 2013-06-29 05:29:08 UTC
Being a good speaker isn't as flattering as you might think. The traits required (arrogance, average intelligence, immorality, ect.) tend to make you a terrible person in every other context.
Josef Djugashvilis
#208 - 2013-06-29 05:49:48 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Being a good speaker isn't as flattering as you might think. The traits required (arrogance, average intelligence, immorality, ect.) tend to make you a terrible person in every other context.


Good speaker, traits required - immorality, arrogance, average intelligence...can one not be a good speaker without these traits, as you term them?

I am confused.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#209 - 2013-06-29 05:57:42 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Being a good speaker isn't as flattering as you might think. The traits required (arrogance, average intelligence, immorality, ect.) tend to make you a terrible person in every other context.


Glib =/= Good public speaking

And one thing online that offline doesn't have a problem with and that's inflection. So judging online will not meet reality.

And that's the moral here.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#210 - 2013-06-29 06:06:19 UTC
Cearain wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Cearain wrote:
With goons its all about the isk. Not all about the fun. Its a game guys not real life - unless you are the mittani.

Mittani says as much. They go to war for isk and their main tactic is to deny the enemy fun - even though, blue balling, sitting in a station is no fun for them either. Yet the goons listen like good little dogs because making isk is super important. It's pity not hate.


Someone needs to pay the bills to let us have fun.



Its not that hard to make some isk in this game on your own. Even buying a plex is like 3 dollars for 100 mill isk. Why take orders from such a pompous clown for that?

As if listening to his shameless self-important speeches isn't bad enough, if you want his isk you have to fit your ships just the way he wants, don't you?

This is a spaceship game where you can do whatever you want and you choose to be a lackey. I don't get it.


I'll take free pvp ships over spending money. As for the ship fits, you dont know me very well it seems.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#211 - 2013-06-29 06:57:35 UTC
Jacada Ansari wrote:
Y'all just jealous of our magnificent space empire.


Why? You will fall just like BoB and be as forgotten.

Two things to remember:

1. There's no such thing as a 1000 year reign.
2. And you can't take it with you when you're expelled (or dead).

I really don't care about your assets. If some other alliance wants to snip them, I still careless, as that's not what I play EvE for (and no, no one told me to say this either).

Players will hate the Goons like they hate things in RL...

A. They're like Wal-Mart.
B. They're braggarts and want to show off.
C. They're like bullies who can't even fight themselves, but must fight with a blob (and this blob is turning out to be but IsBoxers).

When the Goonies die and another alliance supplants them, it'll be the same reasons again. You're not special in that regard, you're just another alliance cog in the wheel.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Jacada Ansari
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#212 - 2013-06-29 08:34:39 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Jacada Ansari wrote:
Y'all just jealous of our magnificent space empire.


Why? You will fall just like BoB and be as forgotten.

Two things to remember:

1. There's no such thing as a 1000 year reign.
2. And you can't take it with you when you're expelled (or dead).

I really don't care about your assets. If some other alliance wants to snip them, I still careless, as that's not what I play EvE for (and no, no one told me to say this either).

Players will hate the Goons like they hate things in RL...

A. They're like Wal-Mart.
B. They're braggarts and want to show off.
C. They're like bullies who can't even fight themselves, but must fight with a blob (and this blob is turning out to be but IsBoxers).

When the Goonies die and another alliance supplants them, it'll be the same reasons again. You're not special in that regard, you're just another alliance cog in the wheel.


How can we fall like BoB when we are the people that made them fall in the first place? Our fabulous space empire (I say fabulous because you have to had at least one homosexual experience to be let in. The Mittani is well known in New Yorks gay scene for being rather well endowed.) will last for eternity. We exist outside of the game, we are not from Eve. We know not of your customs. If our invincible space empire somehow falls. (This will only happen if we do it to ourselves, which we have done once before) then we simply regroup and come back with exactly the same numbers if not more people that we had before.

I don't know why you people think this games playerbase hates us. When I fly around in my glorious rifter I am lavished with praise and worship from the high sec carebears, we Goons are universally loved and adored in this game. One of the reasons we play is because you non-goons are so loving and also incredibly socially open in regards to our sexuality. Its not often we play a game together where people don't use the fact that we are homosexual as ammunition against us.

We love you so much, we will never leave. I will personally make sure that our glorious space empire keeps providing you with reasons to love us as much as you already do, if not more.
god Uchonela
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#213 - 2013-06-29 09:41:13 UTC
Somebody tell me this guy is just joking about the homosexual thing lol. Tooo funny
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#214 - 2013-06-29 09:43:31 UTC
Jacada Ansari wrote:

How can we fall like BoB when we are the people that made them fall in the first place?


Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#215 - 2013-06-29 09:46:47 UTC
I think what people dislike about goons is that they're trying to take the good moons, and stuff.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#216 - 2013-06-29 09:47:22 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Jacada Ansari wrote:

How can we fall like BoB when we are the people that made them fall in the first place?


Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


Well, considering BoB outright cheated at the game... a lot...

That'd be pretty tricky. Goonswarm more or less saved this game from being marginalized to death by bad press because of BoB. BoB deserved their death far more than any other (player created, because we all know Concord needs to go die in a fire) entity in the history of EVE.

Metagaming, being all propaganda crazy, making fun of their opponents, scamming people, ganking miners...

None of it adds up to outright cheating.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Mellivora Nulla Irrumabo
#217 - 2013-06-29 12:21:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Jacada Ansari wrote:

How can we fall like BoB when we are the people that made them fall in the first place?


Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


Well, considering BoB outright cheated at the game... a lot...

That'd be pretty tricky. Goonswarm more or less saved this game from being marginalized to death by bad press because of BoB. BoB deserved their death far more than any other (player created, because we all know Concord needs to go die in a fire) entity in the history of EVE.

Metagaming, being all propaganda crazy, making fun of their opponents, scamming people, ganking miners...

None of it adds up to outright cheating.


The ignorance is strong in this one Shocked

I was here before Goons!

And when they showed up they stated that their intention was to "Destroy Eve Online", Goons did not came up in Eve Online by them self either, they were picked up from the floor (after a good stomping BoB provided them) by the old Red Alliance in the Lotka Voltera war. Their current success in Eve Online stems directly from so called "pubs" and alliances with - in their eyes inferior- "pub alliances". (Like the CFC now with Razor not being Goons and all.

This is Eve Online though, and the game has endured as its players. they have now turned themselves into something weirder and more depended on Eve Online. With more people leaving (getting bored/Life gets in the way) we will see a decline in core members and the alliance becoming even more one of many.

No hate per se, but a certain disdain against a group that wanted to destroy our game and community and failed miserably at that by becoming the biggest care bears in the game mining tech moons.

And I will be here when Goons will be gone!
Josef Djugashvilis
#218 - 2013-06-29 12:27:00 UTC
Jacada Ansari wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
[quote=Jacada Ansari]Y'all just jealous of our magnificent space empire.


Why? You will fall just like BoB and be as forgotten.

Two things to remember

How can we fall like BoB when we are the people that made them fall in the first place? Our fabulous space empire (I say fabulous because you have to had at least one homosexual experience to be let in. The Mittani is well known in New Yorks gay scene for being rather well endowed.) will last for eternity. We exist outside of the game, we are not from Eve. We know not of your customs. If our invincible space empire somehow falls. (This will only happen if we do it to ourselves, which we have done once before) then we simply regroup and come back with exactly the same numbers if not more people that we had before.

I don't know why you people think this games playerbase hates us. When I fly around in my glorious rifter I am lavished with praise and worship from the high sec carebears, we Goons are universally loved and adored in this game. One of the reasons we play is because you non-goons are so loving and also incredibly socially open in regards to our sexuality. Its not often we play a game together where people don't use the fact that we are homosexual as ammunition against us.

We love you so much, we will never leave. I will personally make sure that our glorious space empire keeps providing you with reasons to love us as much as you already do, if not more.


You seem to have confused having a big d**k with being a big d**k

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#219 - 2013-06-29 12:32:37 UTC
Jacada Ansari wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Jacada Ansari wrote:
Y'all just jealous of our magnificent space empire.


Why? You will fall just like BoB and be as forgotten.

Two things to remember:

1. There's no such thing as a 1000 year reign.
2. And you can't take it with you when you're expelled (or dead).

I really don't care about your assets. If some other alliance wants to snip them, I still careless, as that's not what I play EvE for (and no, no one told me to say this either).

Players will hate the Goons like they hate things in RL...

A. They're like Wal-Mart.
B. They're braggarts and want to show off.
C. They're like bullies who can't even fight themselves, but must fight with a blob (and this blob is turning out to be but IsBoxers).

When the Goonies die and another alliance supplants them, it'll be the same reasons again. You're not special in that regard, you're just another alliance cog in the wheel.


How can we fall like BoB when we are the people that made them fall in the first place? Our fabulous space empire (I say fabulous because you have to had at least one homosexual experience to be let in. The Mittani is well known in New Yorks gay scene for being rather well endowed.) will last for eternity. We exist outside of the game, we are not from Eve. We know not of your customs. If our invincible space empire somehow falls. (This will only happen if we do it to ourselves, which we have done once before) then we simply regroup and come back with exactly the same numbers if not more people that we had before.

I don't know why you people think this games playerbase hates us. When I fly around in my glorious rifter I am lavished with praise and worship from the high sec carebears, we Goons are universally loved and adored in this game. One of the reasons we play is because you non-goons are so loving and also incredibly socially open in regards to our sexuality. Its not often we play a game together where people don't use the fact that we are homosexual as ammunition against us.

We love you so much, we will never leave. I will personally make sure that our glorious space empire keeps providing you with reasons to love us as much as you already do, if not more.

The Mittani himself will empty our wallet (reimbursement backlog HERE WE COME) and leave his regards behind before disbanding GSF,

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#220 - 2013-06-29 12:53:15 UTC
This thread is still on page 1?

Oh, my.....

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.