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Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#181 - 2013-06-28 18:07:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Kijo Rikki
baltec1 wrote:


Sounds like they forced STO devs to fix at least a little bit of that horribly broken game.


Yes, but I'm afraid JHAS and Wells Science Ships still exist. Lol

With the new expansion, it's even more horribly unbalanced now. I figured it was time to come back and see what the old EvE gang was up to.

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This is impossible and utterly unneeded. It is a very stupid thing to suggest and has zero evidence to back it up.


One of our freighters went down the other day, reportedly he was sent spam fleet invites and requests to start conversations. So I think freighter pilots need to be in a fleet by themselves and make their CSPA charge 8,000,000,000,000.00. That ought to fix the problem.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#182 - 2013-06-28 18:07:43 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

I am sure Bat not only didnt know any thing about this but would never take advantage of such an exploit/bug Roll


We don't play that terrible game.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#183 - 2013-06-28 18:08:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:




What THING did I say? Also not all pilots that get spam attacked and laged and locked up are not AFK auto pilot.


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I know of a couple used to gank freighters that involved causing them to lag out and lock up


This is impossible and utterly unneeded. It is a very stupid thing to suggest and has zero evidence to back it up.

If it were possible to produce voice logs of it being done, would that help?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#184 - 2013-06-28 18:12:12 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

If it were possible to produce voice logs of it being done, would that help?


Because voice logs are impossible to fake!

Nobody is going to buy your latest crackpot tinfoil goonspiricy because everyone can see that it is both impossible to do and pointless given how easy it is to catch a freighter.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#185 - 2013-06-28 18:26:14 UTC
Thugnificent Gangstalicio wrote:
Wow...

Sure Goonswarm pays plex for all if its several thousand members every month.


I'm just trying ot understand what Mallak means when he responds this way:


Mallak Azaria wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Cearain wrote:
With goons its all about the isk. Not all about the fun. Its a game guys not real life - unless you are the mittani.

Mittani says as much. They go to war for isk and their main tactic is to deny the enemy fun - even though, blue balling, sitting in a station is no fun for them either. Yet the goons listen like good little dogs because making isk is super important. It's pity not hate.


Someone needs to pay the bills to let us have fun.


Why? You're IsBoxing multiple accounts as it is.

Maybe if you had 1 or 2 accounts you can PLEX like anyone else!


Why would I personally PLEX my 5 accounts when people are more than willing to PLEX it for me?



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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#186 - 2013-06-28 18:29:15 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


Sounds like they forced STO devs to fix at least a little bit of that horribly broken game.


Yes, but I'm afraid JHAS and Wells Science Ships still exist. Lol

With the new expansion, it's even more horribly unbalanced now. I figured it was time to come back and see what the old EvE gang was up to.

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Quote:
This is impossible and utterly unneeded. It is a very stupid thing to suggest and has zero evidence to back it up.


One of our freighters went down the other day, reportedly he was sent spam fleet invites and requests to start conversations. So I think freighter pilots need to be in a fleet by themselves and make their CSPA charge 8,000,000,000,000.00. That ought to fix the problem.


The maximum is 1 million for CSPA. If what your friend claims is true, why has he not petitioned it? because it didn't actually happen

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#187 - 2013-06-28 18:31:31 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Nobody is going to buy your latest crackpot tinfoil goonspiricy


Pfft, this is EvE afterall. It's a game as paranoid as a paranoid schizophrenic...so you can just ease up on the crazy talk, it's already built into the game and even you aren't immuned to it (unless you do buy Brooklyn Bridges at the going rate...).


_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#188 - 2013-06-28 18:33:37 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:

The maximum is 1 million for CSPA. If what your friend claims is true, why has he not petitioned it? because it didn't actually happen


Well then he can go into his options and auto-reject invitations and duel invitations. Problem still solved! Smile

Also, I don't even know who it was, kill was posted in alliance chat and reason given and that was the end of it. For all I know the guy could be lying or he may have indeed petitioned it. All I'm saying is there are ways to prevent it from happening.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#189 - 2013-06-28 19:08:14 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:

The maximum is 1 million for CSPA. If what your friend claims is true, why has he not petitioned it? because it didn't actually happen


Well then he can go into his options and auto-reject invitations and duel invitations. Problem still solved! Smile

Also, I don't even know who it was, kill was posted in alliance chat and reason given and that was the end of it. For all I know the guy could be lying or he may have indeed petitioned it. All I'm saying is there are ways to prevent it from happening.


It has been deemed an exploit for quite some time now so anyone doing it on a freighter no less are terribly dumb if its true.
Victor Dathar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#190 - 2013-06-28 20:00:49 UTC
Goons are losing in Fountain and can't even hold the systems they break sov in before TEST takes them back and puts a new TCU in. Hopefully they will be pushed out of 0.0 so real players can enjoy the game as CCP intended and not use it as some online bullying platform from their moms basements.

If CCP could see how much damage they do to the game then maybe they would do the right thing and ban them all.

^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7

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Mark Androcius
#191 - 2013-06-28 20:07:04 UTC
Victor Dathar wrote:
Goons are losing in Fountain and can't even hold the systems they break sov in before TEST takes them back and puts a new TCU in. Hopefully they will be pushed out of 0.0 so real players can enjoy the game as CCP intended and not use it as some online bullying platform from their moms basements.

If CCP could see how much damage they do to the game then maybe they would do the right thing and ban them all.


lol



Seriously though ( if i was to take this post serious ) we are fighting in test space and test are defending it, i haven't seen anything close to a real counter invasion of cfc space.

Sirmolle seems to be poking around in his old sov though, maybe they will form a slight irritation once again

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#192 - 2013-06-28 20:10:01 UTC
If people want to pay to join an internet forum they like I see no problem with that. I paid my :twennybux: to join the Friendship Is Magic forums and it's great! If any goons would like to be a FIMmer (as we call ourselves NOT "FIM-males"! so just stop that mmkk?) I'd be glad to sponsor you for the magically friendly low low discount rate of only 400m isk.

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#193 - 2013-06-28 20:56:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
They are the Great Satan, the wounded snake. They permit immodesty and decadence. Their sisters lay with dogs.
Jacada Ansari
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#194 - 2013-06-28 21:21:31 UTC
Y'all just jealous of our magnificent space empire.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#195 - 2013-06-28 21:22:04 UTC
Victor Dathar wrote:
Goons are losing in Fountain and can't even hold the systems they break sov in before TEST takes them back and puts a new TCU in. Hopefully they will be pushed out of 0.0 so real players can enjoy the game as CCP intended and not use it as some online bullying platform from their moms basements.

If CCP could see how much damage they do to the game then maybe they would do the right thing and ban them all.



Goons don't bully anyone around other then their own members and their own coalition.

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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#196 - 2013-06-28 23:26:11 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
That solely depends on how you define this. There are no 'Raid Guilds' dominating, there are rather large Alliances dominating.
You can still get stuff from those regions, they are not as dangerous as you might think. Without renting, I mean.

Confirming though, that you are unable to build a 5-man "Empire" that will be entirely safe and will make you feel like a god.
Find some few thousand others, then you can do that.


It's just lipstick on the same pig (no matter how it's carved up...it's still pork).

Switch an avatar guild ruling a server, for an EvE alliance...bingo...it's deju vu all over again.

I left EQII after the worst 4+hr server bitchfest over one avatar guild from hell. After that GL got his mug on EQ2Flame's wall of shame, I left satisfied justice was served. Went to WoW and did everything I could to fight for access, as I hate this stupidity of paying for some bozos to act like lords, with the mentality of slime mold.

Devs who want to create worlds like this better just go F2P. When players are paying for game time, leave that bullshit where it belongs, buried in EQ/EQII and put a stake into it's blackest heart.


and yet i belong to a small alliance that has taken 40-50 r64 moons from CFC in the last month and have several of their stations /ihubs in final reinforce timers. There are small sov holding groups all over the map and NPC null swarms with various size groupings that prey on the large alliances. Goonswarm with whom you seem so obsessed live in fear of N3 and PL super fleets. All the large sov holding alliances are fearful of when and where the Russian groupings will attack next.

Indeed the corp of which i am proud to be a member has in the past taken and held sov with 20 guys. The forums are full of people whining about the things they can't do but honestly Eve is a game full of things you can do if you are either smart or half way social.

Fake edit. the 30000 or so people in CFC/goons constantly lose fleets to people like 401k/ darkside/BL etc they hate and fear us and people like us. For all their numbers and large expensive ships they lose fights over and over again. No one rules Eve and the bigger you get the more predators circle you.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#197 - 2013-06-29 01:48:53 UTC
Victor Dathar wrote:
Goons are losing in Fountain and can't even hold the systems they break sov in before TEST takes them back and puts a new TCU in. Hopefully they will be pushed out of 0.0 so real players can enjoy the game as CCP intended and not use it as some online bullying platform from their moms basements.

If CCP could see how much damage they do to the game then maybe they would do the right thing and ban them all.

YOU USED THE WRONG ALT MAN THE WHOLE THING WILL BE EXPOSED JESUS DELETE THIS NOW.
Cearain wrote:
Goons don't bully anyone around other then their own members and their own coalition.

During a couple of our recent quite major operations in Fountain I was dicking around in highsec with a couple of buddies doing nothing of any real importance. I could rattle off a list that would get to max-post-length of goons who don't respond to any all-all pings for fleets because they'd rather be off doing something else.

Not sure what I'm meant to being told to do, but I'm not getting the memos apparently and whoever is meant to be kicking us all out isn't doing his job either. Or, you know, you're just talking out of your ass.
Kijo Rikki wrote:
Well, the leader of SFD apparently got perma-banned, so I don't even know what he was up to but it must have been epic, and SFD's response was to basically buy up all the Jem'Hadar Attack Ships (most OP offensive ship in game, worth 100million EC) off the market and simply destroy them as some form of protest or attack. I don't think it would hurt anyone but the players by driving the price up insanely as those are limited edition ships.

To me, it just seemed par for the course, we exploited and got caught and now if you don't give us back our leader we have so much in-game money that we'll break the market and make the game miserable for everyone else type deal.

Again, I don't know the full story on these. It's just little things here and there that I hear that make impressions of an entity that has never affected me personally.

I skim the thread from time-to-time, and my understanding was STO GMs were wildly inconsistent in how they metered out punishment for this, and given it was just awful, flawed, game design (and not some clever large scale design or operation) it's most peoples opinion there shouldn't have been any punishments for it.
The protest was more about them banning people for coding the game in a ****** fashion, and AFAIK no rules were broken in the protest. In comparison, the '4x4' exploit took a lot of ingenuity and deliberate planning to pull off, but because CCP recognised it as their own error making it possible, no bans were handed out (just some pretty large withdrawals Blink)

+1 to CCP on doing that the right way.

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Large Collidable Object
morons.
#198 - 2013-06-29 02:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
I kinda like goons for being the exclusive providers of content during the incarnage development phase.

For the games sake, I hope they DIAF in the fountain invasion. However, they will prevail and I frankly don't relly care.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#199 - 2013-06-29 03:11:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Khanh'rhh wrote:
During a couple of our recent quite major operations in Fountain I was dicking around in highsec with a couple of buddies doing nothing of any real importance. I could rattle off a list that would get to max-post-length of goons who don't respond to any all-all pings for fleets because they'd rather be off doing something else.

Not sure what I'm meant to being told to do, but I'm not getting the memos apparently and whoever is meant to be kicking us all out isn't doing his job either. Or, you know, you're just talking out of your ass.

It helps that we shoot structures in style with:
ships that can warp cloaked
ships that can bridge our (ships that warp cloaked), so we don't have to take gates
ships that can warp cloaked and (possibly) through bubbles to carry carry cynos that do not show up on overview and cannot be stopped, to allow the ships [that bridge our (ships that warp cloaked)] to get us into system without having to take gates with minimum fuss
ships that can warp cloaked and be bridged by our [ships that bridge our (ships that warp cloaked)] that can bring our ships that warp cloaked and can be bridged everywhere ammo, while cloaked, anywhere

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Bob Blunts
#200 - 2013-06-29 03:12:14 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Thugnificent Gangstalicio wrote:
Why is moon goo classified as PvE? It's only obtained through PvP.


Because it is PvE material.

Not like you PvP jocks are going to stop training your uber skills to blow up others, to mine/refine/build with it. Your PvE toon will do it, though.

So, you can stop the "I'm a PvPer!!!!" BS.

You make your ISK plying PvE activities (building / market), and use a blob (not a skilled fleet) to gain territory.

In short you guys remind me of WoW players who raid after the nerfs, as you can't cut the mustard.

You only exist due to a blob of ships. What IsBox multiboxers do in other games to dominate you imported in EvE. And then try to claim, "We're #1!!!!!"



Could you get any madder over a video game? Why don't you roll a joint, go chill out and listen to some Marley and come back to this thread when that vein in your forehead stops throbbing.

Any alliance that can make a little spergling like you so f****** angry about this game is A-OK in my books.