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So tell me how EVE is the furthest thing from WoW - again?

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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2013-06-27 15:36:37 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:

In Eve, you grind exactly as much as you CHOOSE to. That makes all the difference.



^^^ This

EVE doesn't make me feel like I HAVE TO log on. Except to keep my SkillQueue minigame fully functional, which is the only real grind in the game that I have seen so far (as I previously stated).

Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
Jimmy Morane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#82 - 2013-06-27 15:37:46 UTC
I don't know if it has been said - don't have time to read all replies, but if you haven't already, train up connections skill to 2, pick an agent and stick with him, and once connections are up you should see level 2 missions appear which means you are in fine standing with your people again. I don't know what you were going on about with no tags dropping - you mean navy tags from loot?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#83 - 2013-06-27 16:11:06 UTC
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
Tippia wrote:
…so… exactly what kind of tags were you hunting for, and where?

I see what you're doing there Big smile

Actually, probably not.

I just have this distinct feeling that the OP is looking in the wrong place. Different tags have different sources, and not all rats are good for that kind of grinding.
Khira Kitamatsu
#84 - 2013-06-27 16:25:51 UTC
Oh my...look at all the wonderful help and comments - thank you all so much. EVE has such a great game community...best ever. Thanks for all the help.

Oh and if you are a noob player reading this thread...be aware that your player faction standing does matter! Watch it carefully. Otherwise, you'll find yourself not able to travel peacefully through certain parts of space.

Again - to all those that commented - you people are the best - just awesome! Love you all! Big smile

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Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2013-06-27 16:28:01 UTC
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:
Oh my...look at all the wonderful help and comments - thank you all so much. EVE has such a great game community...best ever. Thanks for all the help.


Your question was literally answered by the first reply, yet here you are on page 5 still mewing like a wounded kitten.

And it's the "game community" that has a problem.

Right.
Solderan
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
#86 - 2013-06-27 17:02:44 UTC
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:
op Im doing it wrong
Paraphrased your op for you.
Din Chao
#87 - 2013-06-27 17:05:59 UTC
EVE is not the furthest thing from WoW. It's not conclusive, but at one time astronomers believed Abell 1835 IR1916 was the furthest thing from WoW.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#88 - 2013-06-27 17:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
De'Veldrin wrote:


The question I'd really like answered is this one:

If you dislike Eve as much as you appear to on the forums, why are you still playing it? I mean that seriously. Why are you subjecting yourself to a voluntary experience that you dislike that much? Do you also routinely volunteer for skin abrasions, public flogging, and being water boarded?



Been asking that question for years, and never once got answer let alone a rational one. I doubt you'll get answer as well.

Not only because they don't know (they being the people who hate on and gripe about EVE but still play it), but because they aren't honest enough with themselves to even begin to ask themselves that question. They probably understand that if they dug too deep into their actions and motivations they'd not like what they see, and folks like that can't take too many hits to the ego :) .

As it is in game it is in real life. I've worked with people who never had anything good to say about the job or our particular organization...and they do so year after year, collecting pay check after pay check. But If you listen to them, ours is the worst organization of it's kind EVER.

But they never even try to leave and work elsewhere.. Other people come in, like the job but want better and actually do leave. Others of us like the job and stay on till retirement. But these gripe-masters take the cake. If I hated ANYTHING just a fraction as much as they claim to hate our job, I'd leave and not look back.

Imagine my surprise to find the same kinds of people in a video game that's 100% voluntary and that does not provide any kind of food, shelter and/or clothing to anyone but CCP employees and a few shadowy Eastern European RMTrs (lol) .
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2013-06-27 17:23:37 UTC
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:

What I have learned is - this is just like WoW...no it is worse than WOW - and out WoW's - WoW! In world of Warcraft you can grind for certain things to turn in to NPC's to fix your rating(or grind mobs), but in EVE the drop rate for tags is beyond abysmal - it is pathetic. At least in WoW the drop rates for the items you need is bearable and you won't pull your hair out while grinding for them.


It's funny how you answered your Title question in your first post. EVE is further from WoW, for the exact reason above that you try to claim they are the same.

In EVE, you have REAL loss, and REAL consequences to your actions. In Wow you can make a "mistake" and find a relatively easy way to fix it. In EVE those mistakes can really hurt.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2013-06-27 17:24:40 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:


The question I'd really like answered is this one:

If you dislike Eve as much as you appear to on the forums, why are you still playing it? I mean that seriously. Why are you subjecting yourself to a voluntary experience that you dislike that much? Do you also routinely volunteer for skin abrasions, public flogging, and being water boarded?



Been asking that question for years, and never once got answer let alone a rational one. I doubt you'll get answer as well.


I know. I never get an answer either. Usually just misdirection, an abrupt change of subject, or an ad hominem.

But I keep trying. Hope is a virtue, even when it chances to be misplaced.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#91 - 2013-06-27 17:31:27 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:

What I have learned is - this is just like WoW...no it is worse than WOW - and out WoW's - WoW! In world of Warcraft you can grind for certain things to turn in to NPC's to fix your rating(or grind mobs), but in EVE the drop rate for tags is beyond abysmal - it is pathetic. At least in WoW the drop rates for the items you need is bearable and you won't pull your hair out while grinding for them.


It's funny how you answered your Title question in your first post. EVE is further from WoW, for the exact reason above that you try to claim they are the same.

In EVE, you have REAL loss, and REAL consequences to your actions. In Wow you can make a "mistake" and find a relatively easy way to fix it. In EVE those mistakes can really hurt.


Well said.

That's what the OP boils down to: asking CCP to give him an easier way to fix HIS mistake, just like most games (like WoW) does.

It's here that you notice the start difference in the reasons play games. Some of us play for the challenge and don't want a game to do everything for us. Others play to artificially boost their egos (to get away from the fail that is their real lives lol), and most game makes aid and abet such players by making them "THE HERO" in damn near every game that isn't EVE.

Hero's shouldn't be held responsible for their mistakes, the game should give magical powers of "fixing it" so that they can finish being the hero in enough time for them to make it to class at DeVry Institute......
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#92 - 2013-06-27 17:35:57 UTC
EvE is only like WoW if you want it to be like WoW. Those who don't want it to be like WoW make sure it isn't. They're usually called 'pirates' and 'PvP'ers'. Enjoy!

For the Newbies: The 8 Golden Rules - The Magic 14 Skills - Finding the Right Corp - EVE University Wiki
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2013-06-27 17:45:12 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
EvE is only like WoW if you want it to be like WoW. Those who don't want it to be like WoW make sure it isn't. They're usually called 'pirates' and 'PvP'ers'. Enjoy!


But it doesn't work like that. What's successful is in the model WoW uses. Can't clone it, that will fail. But the production values, yes. That's why WoW is successful, it got it's ducks in the row and did it right...quality mattered.

To work against that is defeating the quality of the game. It's a kin to someone not wanting to give up Windows XP for nothing but they're used to it.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#94 - 2013-06-27 18:37:58 UTC
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:

Oh...and why is it that when it comes to finding the tags I need, all but the ones I need drop?! I find all manner of tags I don't need. Don't need Fed tags - they drop by the bushel. Don't need Blood tags...not a problem...run a few missions and you have hundreds filling your cargo hold.



The highlighted/italicized text may be part of your problem.

If you are searching for tags by killing the people you are trying to gain standing with, the result will be less than satisfactory.


Profit favors the prepared
Khira Kitamatsu
#95 - 2013-06-27 18:42:43 UTC
Evei Shard wrote:
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:

Oh...and why is it that when it comes to finding the tags I need, all but the ones I need drop?! I find all manner of tags I don't need. Don't need Fed tags - they drop by the bushel. Don't need Blood tags...not a problem...run a few missions and you have hundreds filling your cargo hold.



The highlighted/italicized text may be part of your problem.

If you are searching for tags by killing the people you are trying to gain standing with, the result will be less than satisfactory.




Fed tags were dropped by NPC's that were part of the mission(that I didn't even kill,other NPC's killed them). It was a Serpentis mission.

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Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#96 - 2013-06-27 18:46:43 UTC
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:
Evei Shard wrote:
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:

Oh...and why is it that when it comes to finding the tags I need, all but the ones I need drop?! I find all manner of tags I don't need. Don't need Fed tags - they drop by the bushel. Don't need Blood tags...not a problem...run a few missions and you have hundreds filling your cargo hold.



The highlighted/italicized text may be part of your problem.

If you are searching for tags by killing the people you are trying to gain standing with, the result will be less than satisfactory.




Fed tags were dropped by NPC's that were part of the mission(that I didn't even kill,other NPC's killed them). It was a Serpentis mission.


Juuuust checking. I've run into pilots that overlooked that little detail when running missions.

Profit favors the prepared
Short Stack122
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2013-06-27 18:49:54 UTC
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:


Excuse me...I was just a peaceful miner, until CCP forced me to start doing other things. Like running missions, exploration, killing other players...I had no ideal that this games racial factions actually mattered because I was always told that in high-sec you can go anywhere and the only thing you need to worry about is can flippers and the occasional wannabe ganker- because I was a miner. I didn't do anything to harm my rating.

Until just recently. I decided to join corp mates running missions.

BTW this has nothing to do with what you went on about....I am talking about fixing my rating. There should be a reasonable way to fix it. EVEN IN WOW - there is a way to fix your ratings that isn't masochistic.

Not in EVE!



as an orca pilot you have been playing this game MUCH longer than i have and even i know that CCP has NEVER and will NEVER force me to do anything.

0/10
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2013-06-27 18:51:36 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Nonsense


Look, Jenn, your over the top fanboism is a trolling act of all time, but please don't claim to know something from a game you don't play.

That's called hypocrisy.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Khira Kitamatsu
#99 - 2013-06-27 19:01:47 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:

What I have learned is - this is just like WoW...no it is worse than WOW - and out WoW's - WoW! In world of Warcraft you can grind for certain things to turn in to NPC's to fix your rating(or grind mobs), but in EVE the drop rate for tags is beyond abysmal - it is pathetic. At least in WoW the drop rates for the items you need is bearable and you won't pull your hair out while grinding for them.


It's funny how you answered your Title question in your first post. EVE is further from WoW, for the exact reason above that you try to claim they are the same.

In EVE, you have REAL loss, and REAL consequences to your actions. In Wow you can make a "mistake" and find a relatively easy way to fix it. In EVE those mistakes can really hurt.


Well said.

That's what the OP boils down to: asking CCP to give him an easier way to fix HIS mistake, just like most games (like WoW) does.

It's here that you notice the start difference in the reasons play games. Some of us play for the challenge and don't want a game to do everything for us. Others play to artificially boost their egos (to get away from the fail that is their real lives lol), and most game makes aid and abet such players by making them "THE HERO" in damn near every game that isn't EVE.

Hero's shouldn't be held responsible for their mistakes, the game should give magical powers of "fixing it" so that they can finish being the hero in enough time for them to make it to class at DeVry Institute......



You assume too much.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#100 - 2013-06-27 19:08:16 UTC
Eve is real. I saw it on the internet. Therefore Eve is not wow because pandas don't exist IRL.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it