Warfare & Tactics

Hello all.

I've been exploring EVE a bit, and I'm really enjoying it despite my lack of free time. I've been through some missioning, some exploration, ratting ... actually enjoyed mining for a bit.

But I think it's about time I nut up and try some PVP. I was looking into FW and RvB, like most do, and I asked some of the more experienced folks in my clearly-still-noobish corp about them. The prevailing opinion I got there was that both are rather boring or amateurish. I pointed out that I'm also an amateur, but they noted (correctly) that I wouldn't really learn that much from other amateurs. One of them did suggest EVEU, but noted that they would only take me so far. I'd eventually like to get into large(ish) ship PVP, like BC's and BS's, so I'd like to find a good PVP corp. Maybe even make a PVP specific alt, since I kind of like exploring and carebearing on this one. (I like to arbitrarily separate my characters with pointless closet rp. I know it's probably detrimental, but it's more fun for me.)

So, I guess I'm asking:

1) Is it the general consensus on EVE as a whole that FW and RvB are noob-saturated, and that I won't learn 'real PVP' there?

2) If you do think they're alright, do any of the militias stand out over the others? I'd lean toward Gallente or Caldari, if all are equal.


Thanks in advance. I've read quite a bit of the forums, and various other sites, but most of the opinions are sadly years old, so I thought I'd get some newer, more relevant info. Maybe it'll help other

I can't speak to FW as I have no experience in that area.

RvB is a good way to learn the mechanics of PVP and I would recommend it.

Do they teach you the finer points of PVP? .... no. You'll become numb to losing a ship and accustomed to taking the fight, which are both valuable skills, if you ask me.

I would highly recommend a "stint" in RvB but after that look for a corp/alliance with a more hard core agenda.

If you do that then you'll *really* shorten your learning curve and learn the ropes.

I should also say that some of the nullsec alliances, in particular (no matter what you think of them) Goonswarm who are VERY noob friendly and will train you for the big leagues from the ground up. I'm sure others do it too but in my opinion, regardless of affiliation, Goons do this WAY better than any other nullsec entity.

While you first reason for wanting to join Caldari Militia makes perfect sense, this second one does not :) The militia you join has nothing to do with the ships/weapons you use :).

While I sit in the dislike RvB camp as it has too many rules and restrictions to be called anything more than basic pvp I would say join it, but only for 7 days, enough time for you to learn the basic's plus agro mechanics, after that I would suggest find a good pvp corp who will take on a teach a new player how it works.



I would suggest an either a lowsec or FW corp, take you're time to find what looks to be a good corp, also look to take a pvp course for beginers run by Agony unleashed, never join Eve-uni, they are horrible unless you want to be in a fleet with 90% ewar.


While some of the nullsec elite f1 pvp'ers will look down generally upon lowsec pvp and FW in particular it is a fact it alongside the durge it also holds some of the best solo/small gang pvp'ers about, it's no coincidence that all the nullsec groups I can think of who joined FW have all been kicked in the junk hard ( unless they roll with a null type blob ) it actually suprises me more nullsec groups not see the weakness in their pilots for anything less than the blob and deploy groups of them into lowsec to improve the skills in small/med gang warfare.



Anyway whatever you do and try out make sure you having fun and do not be afraid to stay in frigs and cruisers as they give the best fun and teach you how to really fly a ship in pvp unless you like me and just set orbit, overheat everything and close my eyes until something ( usually me) has died.

For Caldari - Talk to Sean Parisi of Fugutive Task Force - ATONEMENT alliance. (They can't spell fugutive but they are good fun to fly with and get some good kills)
They have a good active membership and are beginner friendly.

Who ever told you pvp in FW was amateur has no idea what they are talking about.
Ignore everything about pvp that person has ever told you.

There are many good FW pilots in all factions - you can't go too wrong as long as they are based in low sec.
Avoid any corp based in High Sec or non FW low sec.

Go to nisuwa it has a better class of q-cats. notoras is a qcat closet system seriously

Lots of good advice in this thread - this sums it up well

Just don't try to use high sec badness or null sec blobs to learn pvp.

You learn a very limited amount from being a drone.

Do RvB for a month to learn some basic mechanics of PvP. Then either join FW or move to FW space with a load of frigs and use novice plexes to get your pew on. Blobs will only teach you how to be bad while thinking you are good. Same with "pvp" in high sec.

You may want to reverse your thinking here. If you only fight vets with tons of experience and SP, the fights will be ugly and quick. If you fight fellow noobs, you are on a more level playing field. So finding a place with lots of noobs might be a good thing for you.

The most level playing field for a noob that I know of is in plexes in FW.

...and yes, I am partial to Gallente FW

Mazer