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is there any efficient way to run c4 sites with just me and a buddy?
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Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#21 - 2013-06-25 18:39:58 UTC
I'm curious.... could you expand on that a bit?
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#22 - 2013-06-25 18:58:12 UTC
i'm confused as to how you guys only hit 200m an hour in C4's.
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#23 - 2013-06-25 18:59:59 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
I'm curious.... could you expand on that a bit?


Small Pith A booster are very OP on tengus.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-06-25 19:02:16 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
I'm curious.... could you expand on that a bit?


It all started before I ever tried C4's, but found this post

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1564896#post1564896

That got my dual box setup started. I have since refined it for more efficiency. but it is a good start.


Evangelina Nolen wrote:
i'm confused as to how you guys only hit 200m an hour in C4's.


Because my corp is not an army of alts?

Personally I'm talking when it's just me, aka no corp mates online to run them. We can smash them hard with a good fleet.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-06-25 19:27:08 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:


You can easily hit 200 mil/hr dual boxing with Tengu's They key with 2 is don't try to RR. They are expensive fits and you want max skilled pilots. But they are every bit as easy as C3's


Wait, you're saying don't use RR tengus and instead use expensive fits........serious? RR Tengus ARE the way to run C4's and relatively cheaply too.

I use 2 for everything except Sanctums and data/relic sites.

Don't ban me, bro!
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-06-25 19:42:26 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:


You can easily hit 200 mil/hr dual boxing with Tengu's They key with 2 is don't try to RR. They are expensive fits and you want max skilled pilots. But they are every bit as easy as C3's


Wait, you're saying don't use RR tengus and instead use expensive fits........serious? RR Tengus ARE the way to run C4's and relatively cheaply too.

I use 2 for everything except Sanctums and data/relic sites.


When I'm running just 2 yep. They work great. Project better, hit harder and tank more. They work for everything except the data/relic with the 4 safeguard spawn.
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-06-25 21:23:44 UTC
2x thanatos?
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-06-25 21:40:48 UTC
Best C4 WH corp reporting in :D.

Is it just 2 characters? cuz thats really hard. 4 tengus can run the sites easy...the main problem with C4's is the spawn range (some spawns appear at 130KM from warpin).
Chester Floyd
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-06-26 02:16:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Chester Floyd
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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-06-26 02:40:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Mr Kidd wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:


You can easily hit 200 mil/hr dual boxing with Tengu's They key with 2 is don't try to RR. They are expensive fits and you want max skilled pilots. But they are every bit as easy as C3's


Wait, you're saying don't use RR tengus and instead use expensive fits........serious? RR Tengus ARE the way to run C4's and relatively cheaply too.

I use 2 for everything except Sanctums and data/relic sites.

rr tengus are only used for pve if you lack any sort of imagination.
locally tanked tengus can run C5s with offgrid boosts and can easily handle c4s. however they also require skilled piloting, which rr tengus do not, and are hence not used by most.

if youre running with 4+ toons (which is realistically 2 people since no one in WHs doesnt have alts), 2 logi + dedicated DPS is always gonna kick the crap out of rr tengus.

navy geddons are pretty hot cakes for sub cap WH pve.
machs/nightmares also good.

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Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#31 - 2013-06-26 03:02:45 UTC
3 RR domi's & a mach.
Helgrind Wolf
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-06-26 08:29:04 UTC
Two RR Tengu's can do them no problem.
Ashimat
Clandestine Services
#33 - 2013-06-26 09:08:02 UTC
If you got the skills, I'm pretty convinced it's hard to beat the simplicity and efficiency of two Rattlers for C4s. No boosts needed, no setup time, no orbiting, no ammo, no range-issues, no need for pimp fits.

10min for a Frontier Barraks in a unbonused system. 6-8 min in a Magnetar.

You can even handle Black Holes and Wolf Rayets with a slight refit if you absolutely have to.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#34 - 2013-06-27 19:39:39 UTC
Confused as to how many actual toons are running the C3's that are only netting 20 mil a site. With 2 toons only you should be hitting 10 sites an hour or 100 mil each person. I was getting that much in a Wolf Rayette, where the sleepers get a huge EHP boost.

You can add more toons to run C4 sites and the isk per hour goes up but the split goes up as well. I doubt if running 4 toons on c4 sites would net more than 400 mil an hour ETC ETC.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-06-27 20:43:43 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Confused as to how many actual toons are running the C3's that are only netting 20 mil a site.


Because the value PER SITE is going to be the same regardless of how many people ran it? And I don't have the numbers handy but 20mil may be the bare minimum value, ie blue loot and no ribbon drops.

Isk/site is not the same as isk/hr.
Matarella
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#36 - 2013-06-27 22:13:48 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Confused as to how many actual toons are running the C3's that are only netting 20 mil a site.


Because the value PER SITE is going to be the same regardless of how many people ran it? And I don't have the numbers handy but 20mil may be the bare minimum value, ie blue loot and no ribbon drops.

Isk/site is not the same as isk/hr.


dont know what c3 sites you are running. but blue loot seems to be around 28 mil for me every site. and salvage is about 30% avarage ontop of that.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-06-27 22:31:20 UTC
Matarella wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Confused as to how many actual toons are running the C3's that are only netting 20 mil a site.


Because the value PER SITE is going to be the same regardless of how many people ran it? And I don't have the numbers handy but 20mil may be the bare minimum value, ie blue loot and no ribbon drops.

Isk/site is not the same as isk/hr.


dont know what c3 sites you are running. but blue loot seems to be around 28 mil for me every site. and salvage is about 30% avarage ontop of that.


I'm not. Geez, learn2read.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#38 - 2013-06-28 05:33:42 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Confused as to how many actual toons are running the C3's that are only netting 20 mil a site.


Because the value PER SITE is going to be the same regardless of how many people ran it? And I don't have the numbers handy but 20mil may be the bare minimum value, ie blue loot and no ribbon drops.

Isk/site is not the same as isk/hr.


Because if 2 people are running it and SPLITTING the loot its HALF as much. OP is making half of what i was, so the phrase 'were making 20 mil a site" is very ambiguous.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
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