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I've done it... Murdered my first barge
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#1 - 2013-06-23 19:53:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
I've been working my way towards this for a long time...

An update comes out, and the miners scream, rant, threaten to ragequit. But they never do. If they did, I might have some sympathy. But all they do is ForumRage. No follow-through. Another update, and more of the same.

They show an incredibly self-centered contempt for other play styles. Sure, the Nul-Sec'ers frequently do the same, but there's a difference - Nul-Sec'ers actually get up and *do* things. On occasion, at least. Blink

Increasingly, I've been off-put by the miners whinging. More and more, I've found myself tempted to gank them. Then came Odyssey. Odyssey was too much.
I bought a stack of Catalysts.


Today, I successfully used one of my shiny-new blaster-fit Catalysts to ruthlessly murder an inoffensive Retriever. He deserved it.
He was mining all alone in a 0.5 sec space in a LoL-fit Retriever. I entered the belt almost by accident... Fumbled about clumsily, bumbled my way through the rocks, and locked him up, scanned him down. He didn't even twitch... clearly AFK with a LoL-fit in 0.5 space. He had it coming to him.
I burned him down.

I'm new to this game of Ganking. I didn't have enough firepower to finish his hull in time to burn his pod too, before Concord did for me... But I'm getting better. Soon pods will join barges on my killboard. Pirate
QuakeGod
Empire Manufacturing
#2 - 2013-06-23 20:12:04 UTC
And that's why you should mine in a Skiff, or at least don't mine AFK.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#3 - 2013-06-23 20:46:04 UTC
QuakeGod wrote:
And that's why you should mine in a Skiff, or at least don't mine AFK.

Truth.

I wouldn't bother even trying a Skiff or Procurer solo with a Cat; too much tank, even when badly-fit. Hell, when I mine (and I do, on occasion, on another 'Toon), I mine in a heavily-tanked Procurer 'cause no one bothers.

OTOH, I've got a long way to grow in this... My skills are mediocre at best, and the best I can do is about 455dps (cold), using this build:

8x LIB II (Void S)

1x Passive Targetter I
1x Ship Scanner I

3x Mag Field Stab II

1x Sm Hybrid Burst Aerator I
1x Sm Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Marianne Pollard
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-23 21:04:11 UTC
Congratulations.

Sir James, lord of all that is bumpy, will doubtless be along shortly to stroke your e-peen.

Mocking the afflicted since 2013.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#5 - 2013-06-23 21:07:51 UTC
Marianne Pollard wrote:
Congratulations.

Sir James, lord of all that is bumpy, will doubtless be along shortly to stroke your e-peen.

No doubt I shall feel honored. Blink

But mostly, it was just sweet to put one of those whiners out of their misery. Pirate
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-23 21:19:36 UTC
Congratulations on your first kill! There's nothing like popping an AFK miner then see him rage in local ten minutes later. Once you pop you can't stop!
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2013-06-23 22:54:02 UTC
Congratulations. If you are ever in Sinq Laison, feel free to buy Catalysts from me - I try to seed them throughout most of the area around Dodixie to encourage emergent gamers like yourself.

I like my allies to have access to ship hulls everywhere they go, without having to do 5 jump treks to pick them up.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2013-06-23 23:27:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Thermodynamics is your friend, it should push you over the 500 DPS mark overheated, although if you're going to overheat your blasters the T2s will burn out quicker than T1 or meta items. If you team up with a neutral scout you can replace the mids with a sensor booster loaded with a scan resolution script for a faster lock and a scram.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2013-06-23 23:32:06 UTC
He's got the itch guys.... It's only a matter of time before his yarr echoes across the universe.... Pirate
Litair
Nleesh
#10 - 2013-06-24 00:40:49 UTC
I don't know.. Mining in itself is a horrible and boring chore, and now you just made him mine for even longer to pay the bill for your cheap laugh.

Clearly you could have tried to pop someone that was in it for fun and excitement as well, rather than going for the lowest of the low. But sure popping a helpless miner in high sec is a rush the first time you do it, I know that.. just don't let it become an established playstyle, because it really is exactly as boring and repetitive as what the miners are doing themselves, when the initial adrenaline rush of being bad wears off.
Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#11 - 2013-06-24 01:22:13 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
QuakeGod wrote:
And that's why you should mine in a Skiff, or at least don't mine AFK.

Truth.

I wouldn't bother even trying a Skiff or Procurer solo with a Cat; too much tank, even when badly-fit. Hell, when I mine (and I do, on occasion, on another 'Toon), I mine in a heavily-tanked Procurer 'cause no one bothers.

OTOH, I've got a long way to grow in this... My skills are mediocre at best, and the best I can do is about 455dps (cold), using this build:

8x LIB II (Void S)

1x Passive Targetter I
1x Ship Scanner I

3x Mag Field Stab II

1x Sm Hybrid Burst Aerator I
1x Sm Hybrid Collision Accelerator I



Glad you enjoyed yourself. I have to wonder though, that Cat fit probably runs you about 10 mil just to kill a mining ship that is about 40 mil total? Is that something you can continue to do over the long haul?

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE
Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#12 - 2013-06-24 01:25:35 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Marianne Pollard wrote:
Congratulations.

Sir James, lord of all that is bumpy, will doubtless be along shortly to stroke your e-peen.

No doubt I shall feel honored. Blink

But mostly, it was just sweet to put one of those whiners out of their misery. Pirate


So had you seen evidence that this particular miner is a whiner? What makes you think he was in misery?

Gank fine. But I don't see the need for some kind of self deluded feeling of superiority.

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#13 - 2013-06-24 02:08:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Marianne Pollard wrote:
Congratulations.

Sir James, lord of all that is bumpy, will doubtless be along shortly to stroke your e-peen.

No doubt I shall feel honored. Blink

But mostly, it was just sweet to put one of those whiners out of their misery. Pirate


So had you seen evidence that this particular miner is a whiner? What makes you think he was in misery?

Gank fine. But I don't see the need for some kind of self deluded feeling of superiority.


After all the rivers of forum tears? I think at this point that the shoe is on the other foot: A miner has to demonstrate that they're NOT a whiner.

Anti-social Tendencies wrote:

Glad you enjoyed yourself. I have to wonder though, that Cat fit probably runs you about 10 mil just to kill a mining ship that is about 40 mil total? Is that something you can continue to do over the long haul?

There's no money in it for me - I'm not making a career of this, and I'll certainly need to do other things, but I've learned that I can make that cost up in about a half hour without even trying hard. So, yeah... I can sustain this as long as it's fun.

Litair wrote:
I don't know.. Mining in itself is a horrible and boring chore, and now you just made him mine for even longer to pay the bill for your cheap laugh.

Clearly you could have tried to pop someone that was in it for fun and excitement as well, rather than going for the lowest of the low. But sure popping a helpless miner in high sec is a rush the first time you do it, I know that.. just don't let it become an established playstyle, because it really is exactly as boring and repetitive as what the miners are doing themselves, when the initial adrenaline rush of being bad wears off.
Fair points all. OTOH, considering my bumbling approach, he HAD to be AFK. Anyone actually on-watch would've seen me coming, and have at least *tried* to escape. So I don't feel at all bad about blasting him. Undoubtedly, there are greater challenges to achieve, but I'll take this as a start.

check my killboard (or lossboard! Blink )- you'll see I'm not adverse to head-to-head combat, either.
Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#14 - 2013-06-24 02:13:51 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Marianne Pollard wrote:
Congratulations.

Sir James, lord of all that is bumpy, will doubtless be along shortly to stroke your e-peen.

No doubt I shall feel honored. Blink

But mostly, it was just sweet to put one of those whiners out of their misery. Pirate


So had you seen evidence that this particular miner is a whiner? What makes you think he was in misery?

Gank fine. But I don't see the need for some kind of self deluded feeling of superiority.


After all the rivers of forum tears? I think at this point that the shoe is on the other foot: A miner has to demonstrate that they're NOT a whiner.


Seriously?

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#15 - 2013-06-24 02:17:06 UTC
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Marianne Pollard wrote:
Congratulations.

Sir James, lord of all that is bumpy, will doubtless be along shortly to stroke your e-peen.

No doubt I shall feel honored. Blink

But mostly, it was just sweet to put one of those whiners out of their misery. Pirate


So had you seen evidence that this particular miner is a whiner? What makes you think he was in misery?

Gank fine. But I don't see the need for some kind of self deluded feeling of superiority.


After all the rivers of forum tears? I think at this point that the shoe is on the other foot: A miner has to demonstrate that they're NOT a whiner.


Seriously?


Pretty much, yeah. Have you *looked* at the fora recently? Especially around time of the Odyssey release?
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#16 - 2013-06-24 02:20:09 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Congratulations. If you are ever in Sinq Laison, feel free to buy Catalysts from me - I try to seed them throughout most of the area around Dodixie to encourage emergent gamers like yourself.

I like my allies to have access to ship hulls everywhere they go, without having to do 5 jump treks to pick them up.
So noted, and thanks!
Cool
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#17 - 2013-06-24 02:23:45 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Thermodynamics is your friend, it should push you over the 500 DPS mark overheated, although if you're going to overheat your blasters the T2s will burn out quicker than T1 or meta items. If you team up with a neutral scout you can replace the mids with a sensor booster loaded with a scan resolution script for a faster lock and a scram.

Good advice - thanks. Cool
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#18 - 2013-06-24 02:42:18 UTC
The extermination of miners is a noble cause.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-06-24 03:03:50 UTC
Nice. That Retriever deserved to die, no doubt! Eventually you will start to notice that faction police will begin to follow you around, they may even flash at areas you warp to; before you get there (CCP?). Also you will become Kill on Sight by any and all players. Lowsec will become friendlier than Highsec. I enjoyed it and had lots of fun, but as your sec status begins to diminish and if you wish to continue ganking, you will need either friends, or a scout alt. Personally, I recommend getting in with a good group of pirate/gankers. New Order is one of those places. There are others, but their Corp names escape me at the moment.

Hope this helps!

PS: If you do decide to train up a scout/logi alt, don't forget to salvage, loot your wrecks and if anything flashy drops that too! Or just go suspect every time Pirate

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#20 - 2013-06-24 03:09:35 UTC
I have a scout alt - But he's holding down a WH for me. Big smile I suppose I need to train another...

I haven't yet become so notorious that the Faction police are taking special notice of me. I'm not that important. Yet. Blink
I'm thinking hard on possible solutions / reactions to my eventual KOS status. I'll take a look at James and his swash-buckling crew, thanks!
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