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Becoming a Pirate?

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Snoa Avalhar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-06-23 00:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Snoa Avalhar
Hey guys, I've been playing Eve for a couple of months. I've got a nice flow of ISK (Though not enough to regularly buy PLEX), an assortment of decently-fitted ships, and am a member of a corp that my friend runs. Though I've been wanting to give pirating a try, and since the corp I'm in doesn't allow pirating, I was thinking about making another character/account purely for pirating and other nefarious activities once I can afford to pay for THIS character's subscription through ISK alone.

I was thinking about mostly solo-pirating in something like a Jaguar, or pirating with one or two other people in a close-knit group, but either way I'd still like to join a corp. that focuses on pirating, but IDK of any corporations off the top of my head that do so (Even though I'm positive there has to be some).

So basically, my question is, what relevant guides on becoming a pirate in Eve are there? I've found quite a few but they're all old so I'm not sure if they're up-to-date. I could use guidance on pretty much everything, from what race works well with pirating, to what skills and attributes to focus on, ship fittings, getting in to the pirating community and making a name for myself etc. etc.

Thanks in advance for your input!

EDIT: And to anyone reading this, feel free to keep adding resources and advice as long as you want. This thread could be a good resource to others wishing to be pirates.
-Snoa
Rakkas Kanenald
Tir Capital Management Group
#2 - 2013-06-23 00:07:22 UTC
Use some of your hard earned isk, buy yourself 10 t1 frigs of your choice. Fit them all the best you can, and go to the region of your choice. turn off your safety and go shoot something, if u die repeat until u get a couple wins. talk to the locals and you will find a place.
gaijiin pok
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-23 00:44:56 UTC
I was thinking about mostly solo-pirating in something like a Jaguar, or pirating with one or two other people in a close-knit group, but either way I'd still like to join a corp. that focuses on pirating, but IDK of any corporations off the top of my head that do so (Even though I'm positive there has to be some).


I have run into a lot of smacktards who really don't seem to be the type to have fun flying with, of course I could be wrong and perhaps to their m8's they are awesome.

the only group I have encountered that are full time pirates that are fun to chat with and fight are basgerin pirates so I will give you the nod to head their way - like Rakkas said, fit 10 ships, go have fun, fight em, die a lot, get a few kills, chat em up.

but I am sure they are not the only ones out there.


from an outsiders perspective they seem like a good bunch, one of my corpies that helped form this corp went prat with them till real life got in the way a few years ago and if R/L didn't have me working 60+hrs per week I would definitely give it a shot myself.

"cmon powerball" - the poor mans retirement Lol


Pok
Litair
Nleesh
#4 - 2013-06-23 00:56:02 UTC
What Rakkas says is right, but as a pirate you may come to find that the hardest part is actually finding a victim, so I will have you know that since the Odyssey expansion, there has been a massive increase in explorers, and many go to low sec as well for greater rewards.

So basically that means there's more carebears around in lowsec than ever, which is a great opportunity for a pirate that knows how to find them. They tend to fly cheap t1 frigs or cov ops frigs, but what happens is that they can be carrying loot worth tens or hundreds of millions in isk.. might be willing to pay a ransom if you're into that kind of thing. Or you could perhaps loot some of it from them if they aren't willing.

This is a guy who is a seasoned explorer himself, but has turned to hunt them as well, due to the recent influx of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIUy3-_efts&feature=c4-overview&list=UU6L76TQIxYnWrkQrF7tErSg

He is using a stealth bomber, which ultimately is what you'd want as well, but a regular cov ops frigate might do too, seeing as most people aren't fitted for combat at all. He gives some valuable insight though in any case.

Another strategy is scanning out sites in advance (maybe with a different scanning ship), placing a bookmark at a strategic place in the site, for instance if there is a concentration of containers, and warp out and do the same at a few different places.. Then you can keep an eye out for explorers, by checking out their bio, trying to see what ship they have on directional scan and if there's any probes around.
With some luck you may be able to judge correctly, warp to your bookmark and land close to an unsuspecting explorer, who's likely busy hacking something.

I could go into much more detail, but I think the wall of text is massive enough for now :p
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#5 - 2013-06-23 00:59:20 UTC
Start with T1 frigates - go lose at least twenty before starting with T2. You will lose a LOT.

Lowsec faction warfare is the place to go. Start with novice plexes and learn how to avoid getting blobbed. You pretty much get to choose your opponent if you are patient.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Snoa Avalhar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-06-23 03:04:58 UTC
You guys are the most helpful and polite pirates I've ever met xD
Rakkas Kanenald
Tir Capital Management Group
#7 - 2013-06-23 03:38:22 UTC
Yeah hunting exploration frigs is fun, but its not going to get you into a group nearly as fast as balls up t1 frig in your face Twisted. I'd say if you are truly new to lowsec piracy, there is nothing like some good dirty combat exp, it's a hard life, we limit ourselves from much of the game, and having a network to help With the logistics of piracy is a huge help, if you are a single account player than even more so. Feel free to hit me up ingame as well. New pirate friendly round here. And I can't stress enough t1 on your first trips to low, you are going to embarrass yourself, we all did once(and many of us still do) and you will be much more likely to return for round 10 if u haven't dropped a few hundred mil.
Snoa Avalhar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-23 04:31:04 UTC
Rakkas Kanenald wrote:
Yeah hunting exploration frigs is fun, but its not going to get you into a group nearly as fast as balls up t1 frig in your face Twisted. I'd say if you are truly new to lowsec piracy, there is nothing like some good dirty combat exp, it's a hard life, we limit ourselves from much of the game, and having a network to help With the logistics of piracy is a huge help, if you are a single account player than even more so. Feel free to hit me up ingame as well. New pirate friendly round here. And I can't stress enough t1 on your first trips to low, you are going to embarrass yourself, we all did once(and many of us still do) and you will be much more likely to return for round 10 if u haven't dropped a few hundred mil.


Well like I said my corp doesnt allow its employees to pirate, and idk how long it'll take before I can pay for my sub on this char in ISK so I can start a new account (Im not gonna pay for two subs with cash). Though I guess there'd be nothing wrong with sitting in on a ransom or something and watchin how it's done >.>

Once I do start a new char, Im tempted to just fit a Reaper for PvP and pirating just to see how long I last xD
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#9 - 2013-06-23 05:04:58 UTC
Snoa Avalhar wrote:
Rakkas Kanenald wrote:
Yeah hunting exploration frigs is fun, but its not going to get you into a group nearly as fast as balls up t1 frig in your face Twisted. I'd say if you are truly new to lowsec piracy, there is nothing like some good dirty combat exp, it's a hard life, we limit ourselves from much of the game, and having a network to help With the logistics of piracy is a huge help, if you are a single account player than even more so. Feel free to hit me up ingame as well. New pirate friendly round here. And I can't stress enough t1 on your first trips to low, you are going to embarrass yourself, we all did once(and many of us still do) and you will be much more likely to return for round 10 if u haven't dropped a few hundred mil.


Well like I said my corp doesnt allow its employees to pirate, and idk how long it'll take before I can pay for my sub on this char in ISK so I can start a new account (Im not gonna pay for two subs with cash). Though I guess there'd be nothing wrong with sitting in on a ransom or something and watchin how it's done >.>

Once I do start a new char, Im tempted to just fit a Reaper for PvP and pirating just to see how long I last xD


Just join a faction warfare corp. It's basically the same thing but you lose some targets because they're on your side. The isk is good.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-23 10:51:53 UTC
Snoa Avalhar wrote:
Rakkas Kanenald wrote:
Yeah hunting exploration frigs is fun, but its not going to get you into a group nearly as fast as balls up t1 frig in your face Twisted. I'd say if you are truly new to lowsec piracy, there is nothing like some good dirty combat exp, it's a hard life, we limit ourselves from much of the game, and having a network to help With the logistics of piracy is a huge help, if you are a single account player than even more so. Feel free to hit me up ingame as well. New pirate friendly round here. And I can't stress enough t1 on your first trips to low, you are going to embarrass yourself, we all did once(and many of us still do) and you will be much more likely to return for round 10 if u haven't dropped a few hundred mil.


Well like I said my corp doesnt allow its employees to pirate, and idk how long it'll take before I can pay for my sub on this char in ISK so I can start a new account (Im not gonna pay for two subs with cash). Though I guess there'd be nothing wrong with sitting in on a ransom or something and watchin how it's done >.>

Once I do start a new char, Im tempted to just fit a Reaper for PvP and pirating just to see how long I last xD

I hate corps that have set rules on how someone should be playing this game

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#11 - 2013-06-23 11:18:30 UTC
Here is a short guide that I wrote recently for new players looking to become pirates.

If your current corp doesn't allow people to engage in piracy against other corps, I would suggest that an excellent place to start would be with them. Wait until they have some expensive ship in a vulnerable position, and run up your proverbial jolly roger. It's always more fun when you take somebody completely by surprise while they think they are safe.

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ISD LackOfFaith
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ISD Alliance
#12 - 2013-06-23 22:02:51 UTC
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#13 - 2013-06-23 23:35:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Here is a short guide that I wrote recently for new players looking to become pirates.

If your current corp doesn't allow people to engage in piracy against other corps, I would suggest that an excellent place to start would be with them. Wait until they have some expensive ship in a vulnerable position, and run up your proverbial jolly roger. It's always more fun when you take somebody completely by surprise while they think they are safe.

^^ This is fairly sage advice, I play with RL friends and I fully expect them to steal my stuff, gank me when I'm not looking and otherwise mess with me, because I'd do it to them. True friendship is laughing about it afterwards.

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Litair
Nleesh
#14 - 2013-06-24 00:25:07 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Here is a short guide that I wrote recently for new players looking to become pirates.

If your current corp doesn't allow people to engage in piracy against other corps, I would suggest that an excellent place to start would be with them. Wait until they have some expensive ship in a vulnerable position, and run up your proverbial jolly roger. It's always more fun when you take somebody completely by surprise while they think they are safe.

^^ This is fairly sage advice, I play with RL friends and I fully expect them to steal my stuff, gank me when I'm not looking and otherwise mess with me, because I'd do it to them. True friendship is laughing about it afterwards.


Eh not sure I envy you having friends like that, but each to their own :p
Etuura Zellis
Scarlet Corsairs
#15 - 2013-06-24 10:00:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Etuura Zellis
The advice given here is all very good. If the corp you are currently in doesn't allow piracy, and your set on going down that path - then it's probably best to drop corp and move on. As said, faction warfare is an option if your goal is just to go shoot people. If you want to really learn, I would suggest Red vs Blue as a good starting point.

Also know it's perfectly viable for you to start PVPing on your own (solo,) don't believe those who say solo is dead, as it most certainly isn't. As you gain some experience from just trying, and from reading guides/networking with other like-minded folks you'll find yourself well suited for most low-sec piracy/pvp corps. Feel free to drop by our in-game public channel "The Tuskers Public Channel". There's plenty of people there, both experienced and new pirates, that would be happy to talk to you, give you advice, etc.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2013-06-24 14:38:29 UTC
Psychotic Monk just started a noob-friendly wardec corp. Bribing concord means piracy without gate gun interference.

Visit http://belligerentundesirables.com/ for more details. And hit up monk if you're interested.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#17 - 2013-06-24 15:21:35 UTC
I saw a thread like this in warfare and tactics. You trying to scam from scammers? This is suppose to be the scammers area of the forums. Oh LAWD im lost.

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ！[/u]
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#18 - 2013-06-24 15:31:38 UTC
Litair wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Here is a short guide that I wrote recently for new players looking to become pirates.

If your current corp doesn't allow people to engage in piracy against other corps, I would suggest that an excellent place to start would be with them. Wait until they have some expensive ship in a vulnerable position, and run up your proverbial jolly roger. It's always more fun when you take somebody completely by surprise while they think they are safe.

^^ This is fairly sage advice, I play with RL friends and I fully expect them to steal my stuff, gank me when I'm not looking and otherwise mess with me, because I'd do it to them. True friendship is laughing about it afterwards.


Eh not sure I envy you having friends like that, but each to their own :p

Naaah, that's the guy-stuff, like punching each other for grins until someone says 'ow.' Only with internet spaceships.
Operative X10-4
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-06-24 17:56:39 UTC
Start small and slowly goes bigger, do what people said buy some T1 frigate hulls and look for some action in low secs, Tip: go for factional warfare systems, there are plenty of targets for frigates size combat.
Like Etuura Zellis said, solo combat is not dead, those who thinks it is, are completely wrong, probably they dont even look for it.
Still in Zellis words, Join the channel "The Tuskers Public Channel", you will find that pirates are one of finest breed in EvE. They are people that actually like to fight, dont hold grudges, and after fighting agaist you, will offer a GF and even tips and fits, very different from the carebears players.
Keep in mind that we are pirates, somehow you can trust and you have to distrust at the same time, if it makes any sence. Thats the level of hardcoreness we roll in.
And just to finish, being a criminal is EvE is the play style that is most near to true freedom, of course you will have concord going after you if you jump in high sec, but you will realize that it's not a big deal, you do your own law with your guns. You'll never regret being negative status.

FOREVER PIRATE 07 FLY DANGEROUSLY.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-06-25 01:54:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Shinhwa
Snoa Avalhar wrote:
You guys are the most helpful and polite pirates I've ever met xD


The "bad guys" in New Eden have been the friendliest pilots I've met. Miners the worst. Everyone else some where in between.

Unless you join a corp that somehow has gear brought in, you're going to want an alt that can bring ships and gear into a hisec system near where you're going to be doing your pirating. Once you get below -5 you won't be able to safely fly anywhere in hisec.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
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