EVE General Discussion

Short question,

If I use an alt to spawn concord in the asteroid belt, to help prevent suicide ganks, is it considered an exploit and will CCP take action?

Also please don't gank my juicy retriever (incase gankers read this)

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Using a displosable alt to bypass the standing penalties is classed as an exploit. If you do this, then delete the alt when it hits -2 and create another, you're avoidning the consequences of your actions, and as such it's an exploit.

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How does my reply differ from that you quoted?

The reasoning is that you're deliberately using free ships (noob frigates) and alts to bypass the risk and penalties incurred by angering CONCORD. The incurred penalties are ignored since there's no financial loss, and no meaningful security loss, since you would delete the character afterwards.

Of course, if you're willing to live with these penalties, and don't delete the offending character, then there's no problem, since it is working as intended (you lose your ship, become criminally flagged, and incur a security hit). Although no one will really like you since you're spawning CONCORD to cover your own money making schemes Cool

How about getting some players to help you mine in safety?

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Ah I see the misunderstanding; I was attempting to state that if you use an alt for committing illegal acts (illegal in the sense that CONCORD kicks your ass for it) and then recycle them as a method to avoid the repercussions, you are committing an exploit. It's the avoidance of these penalties that is the problem.

I hope this clarifies my earlier statement somewhat.

Hi everybody,

Our stance towards recycling "disposable alts" for purposes such as suicide ganking or summoning CONCORD for bodyguard duty is that it is an exploit, clear and simple. Using "disposable ships" is not seen as an exploit since all ships ARE disposable, when properly insured.

Exploits are the abuse of game mechanics in ways that were not intended or foreseen in order to gain unfair advantages over others. CCP has to date made arrangements to fix such issues as fast as possible. This, however, takes time and resources to sort out and the proper and perfectly logical solution is to prohibit whatever abuse of game mechanics in question until said issue is fixed.

While some unintended uses of game mechanics may not be classed as exploits they may still be subject to re-design or tuning and we assure you that CCP is working hard on fixing problems with game mechanics as deemed appropriate.

That is really the only straight answer we are able to give you guys on the contents of this thread at this time. There are so many possible scenarios and cases must be evaluated and handled on an individual basis and we simply have to deal with problems as they crop up. The petition system is the way to go about reporting possible issues that may require GM/dev attention so please be sure to file a petition if you think there is a problem. We will then investigate the issue and take the appropriate action.

No. But it won't help much.

There was a lot of arguing about this issue for the last Hulkageddon, I don't think I saw a definitive answer.

I found 4 Quotes on it but it is from an old 2006 Thread. The first 3 are from the same Dev so in the same quote box.





If anyone has anything more recent...

CCP Atropos
Exploits are the abuse of game mechanics in ways that were not intended or foreseen in order to gain unfair advantages over others.