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0.0 Belt rat spawn rate

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Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-22 20:09:43 UTC
Hello

Since odyssey the belt rat spawns in 0.0 are terrible. I been in multiple systems in faction 0.0 space and there has been hardly any spawns what so ever.

In one system with 16 belts there was only one spawn in the entire system!

Has this been done on purpose by CCP? If so please can you clarify and give a reason?



Many thanks
Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-24 18:40:10 UTC
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Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-25 08:44:47 UTC
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A GM informed me to post here and a dev will reply.
Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-06-26 19:39:57 UTC
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Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-28 12:46:48 UTC
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l0rd0fs1n
Romanian Space Explorer
ROMANIAN-LEGION
#6 - 2013-07-17 11:39:11 UTC
Good question ! And guess what ! After a while the rat dont spawn anymore ! I was 3 hours in the same sistem (15 belt) and nothing appears in this 3 hours.
l0rd0fs1n
Romanian Space Explorer
ROMANIAN-LEGION
#7 - 2013-07-20 11:20:03 UTC
Up.
Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-24 09:31:03 UTC
I can also confirm rats do not respawn after a couple of hours ratting in 1 system.
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-07-25 08:32:48 UTC
Is there a fix for belt ratting because this is diabolical...... I went to sleep last night after doin 2 laps of a system with 13 belts found one spawn this was at 11 ET i wake up 7 ET this morning no respawns what so ever and the same rats there i'm currently making 1.6 m every 20 mins 5 m isk a hour...... WTF! i can run lvl 1's, in a kestral, in empire and get more! whats goin on! i wouldnt moan but i class my pve char as a officer hunter, now renaming it to a rat hunter cuz nowdays finding rats is hard let alone officers!!!!!!
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-07-25 08:40:38 UTC
Rimm Jaw wrote:
Is there a fix for belt ratting because this is diabolical...... I went to sleep last night after doin 2 laps of a system with 13 belts found one spawn this was at 11 ET i wake up 7 ET this morning no respawns what so ever and the same rats there i'm currently making 1.6 m every 20 mins 5 m isk a hour...... WTF! i can run lvl 1's, in a kestral, in empire and get more! whats goin on! i wouldnt moan but i class my pve char as a officer hunter, now renaming it to a rat hunter cuz nowdays finding rats is hard let alone officers!!!!!!


I also petitioned this and was told to come here as i would get a reply from a dev as to why u felt it was necessary to destroy 00 npc space
Tankalas Mace Alabel
Demonic Retribution
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-07-25 09:31:39 UTC
Ive now moved to empire to run missions as the ratting system is well and truly broken, i used to make a lot of isk ratting now since oddessy i was making up to a maximum of maybe 5mil an hour. it is now a complete joke, seems we are being forced out of 0.0 to empire just to make isk nowadays. i would definately want clarification as to why CCP thought it necessary to destroy 0.0 rats.

One Unhappy CareBear
Split cheeks
Reqless
#12 - 2013-07-25 09:42:07 UTC
Tankalas Mace Alabel wrote:
Ive now moved to empire to run missions as the ratting system is well and truly broken, i used to make a lot of isk ratting now since oddessy i was making up to a maximum of maybe 5mil an hour. it is now a complete joke, seems we are being forced out of 0.0 to empire just to make isk nowadays. i would definately want clarification as to why CCP thought it necessary to destroy 0.0 rats.

One Unhappy CareBear


You cant say there isn't anything wrong when ppl are goin to high sec to make money lol
Eva Silverwind
Demonic Retribution
The Initiative.
#13 - 2013-07-25 10:52:21 UTC
Once again CCP has had the nerf stick out I guess this is the start of that farms and fields crap where all the money is now in a overcrowded highsec and null is a barran wasteland.
Whats the point of having a whats suposed to be a pvp area if theres no 1 to kill in it?
I thought it was suposed to be risk vs reward ie you can care bear in highsec will only risk of a odd ganker or make mors isk in null but have the risk of a pirate (like myself :) stealing you hard earnd loot.....
Now all the carebears have moved back to empire space theres no 1 left to shoot at apart from the odd cov ops frig running the now far to easy relic and data sites so whats even the point of being in null when theres no one else here to kill you can auto pilot throughmost of it nowday without even fear of a gate camp.

CCP!! Please Please Please sort this out !!!
Primo d'ishii
TETRA-HEDRON
#14 - 2013-07-25 10:58:14 UTC
I have to agree that ratting is no longer a viable option to make a decent income in null sec. However this is not the main issue i believe.

After the last patch ratting has been reduced because it appears the spawn rate has been altered. This means that there are loads of pilots that are now suddenly struggling to make a decent income, despite other options to make isk obv.
Resulting from this is the fact that null sec is becoming less interesting, less people will rat and less pvp (targets) around then before. The 1 ship one encounters in null sec is a covetr ops running relic sites mostly.
Another point is that the NPC spce dwellers who cannot upgrade their systems are hit the hardest because of this change. Sov. holders mostly run the (almost instanly respawning) sanctums. Office and factions spawns seem to have decreased also.
From my perspective their was no need to alter the spawning rate in the belts, or at least not in the NPC space, Logic would dictate :) that the NPC space should be filled with rats since it is ' their' space. The sov. claimable space should indeed have much less rats imho.

CCP would in my eyes do well to make a change like this, more rats in NPC space. Null sec. would improve imho... NPC space would be more hostile and less interesting for mining, sov. space would be interesting for mining and still have their anoms and the odd rat.

or put some sleepers in the relic & data sites, this would make a huge difference.

(ice) mining is obv. stimulated after the last patch, but ice fields have become anomalies, so why spawn rats there in the first place? why not an initial spawn for example.

discuss..
Vega Dallocort
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-07-25 11:14:46 UTC
Faction commander spawn rates in cosmic anomalies may have been effected as well. Their spawn rate seems horrid now.
80+ cosmic anom sites with only 1 faction spawn for me in the last 2 weeks. I remember getting at least 5-6 per week at a minimum. I wonder if this is all connected.
Hanspeter Meier
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-07-25 12:49:10 UTC
i also occoured, that the annomalies have lesser factionspawns. i ran around 100 annos without one factionspawn or an escalation. usially, i got a factionspawn all 10-15 annomalys.
Joanne Bravo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-07-26 10:25:00 UTC
This is also a big issue for me.

There appears to have been a change made in one of the patches to fix issues in the Latest expansion. It appears to not have been a problem on the day of the release.

All the systems' belts are nearly empty. Ratting an average 0.0 10 belt system, I could only find 1 or two spawns on the first run. On the second run (15mins later) again, only 2-4 spawns in total (only one of these spawns incuded a battleship class rat)

I now struggle to make even 5 million in 20minutes. This is purely down to the lack of rats in the belts.

I suppose I should sell my ratting ships and just use a cov-ops frigate to run sites from now on? S***, I could now run the belts in an assault frig and still get the same ticks as a faction battleship! Something has to be broken if you can make more money in a frigate class ship than a faction battleship in 0.0

Is this what you intended CCP? Some clarification would be nice.....
Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-07-26 13:00:47 UTC
Some good points raised.

If this is an intentional change then it truly has fooked faction 0.0 space.

If unintentional then please fix it!

Still no response from CCP so who knows.


Ugh
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-07-27 09:05:29 UTC
Please enlighten us i am struggling to plex 6 of my accounts now im gonna have to let 4 accounts go soon cuz of this change/bug Shocked
l0rd0fs1n
Romanian Space Explorer
ROMANIAN-LEGION
#20 - 2013-07-28 08:27:56 UTC
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